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Capitalist 316

Postby Bestoutwest » Tue Dec 26, 2017 1:22 pm

Anyone hear anything about this bull?
http://www.beef-360.com/semen-guide.php?Id=94
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Re: Capitalist 316

Postby Son of Butch » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:32 pm

Certainly a great looking calving ease bull.
More calving ease and carcass weight than his sire
but with milk 30 vs milk 20 and $EN -19 vs $EN 8 saying he will be a better cow maker than his sire is puffing to me.
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Re: Capitalist 316

Postby Bestoutwest » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:51 pm

Son of Butch wrote:Certainly a great looking calving ease bull.
More calving ease and carcass weight than his sire
but with milk 30 vs milk 20 and $EN -19 vs $EN 8 saying he will be a better cow maker than his sire is puffing to me.


Can you explain more on the milk deal? The higher the number, the more milk a cow makes, but makes her work harder (ie eat more) to keep her frame score consistent? Am I understanding how this works? And, I really don't like that $EN number too much, but his other traits are nice.
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Re: Capitalist 316

Postby Son of Butch » Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:11 pm

Yes, you got it and he has the pedigree to be very good other than $EN he looks awfully high headed in the 2nd picture and that always worries me when it comes to breed docility.
I sure like his thick muscling look and the sons pictured.
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Re: Capitalist 316

Postby Bestoutwest » Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:39 pm

Son of Butch wrote:Yes, you got it and he has the pedigree to be very good other than $EN he looks awfully high headed in the 2nd picture and that always worries me when it comes to breed docility.
I sure like his thick muscling look and the sons pictured.


Thanks! :wave:
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Re: Capitalist 316

Postby Lazy M » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:38 pm

That bull looks awesome. I'd give him a try.
I thought the same thing as SOB on that 2nd pic with how he held his head, but who knows from a pic.
It seems that most bull's $E score get better as more progeny data is recorded, so that wouldn't bother me too much. Unfortunately their growth values generally decline with more data, though..
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Re: Capitalist 316

Postby Dixie2542 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:20 am

We sampled him this fall to bring down some height but keep capacity. We have liked a couple offspring out of other bulls in the Musgrave Angus program before so we giving him a try. If they result in live births will let you know how they do on temperments.
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Re: Capitalist 316

Postby torogmc81 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:34 am

We used him three weeks ago also, on non-FA heifers. Should be good on fescue tolerance coming from Musgrave. We're obviously a fan of his sire along with 316 himself, and are also hoping to plug a 316 son in, Musgrave Stunner
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