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Hauling after AI

Postby okiek » Tue May 08, 2018 10:34 am

I've consulted 3 people who should be knowledgeable on this issue and got 3 answers I'll post below. Thought I'd throw the issue out here and see what I get from you all. I AI'd heifers through COBA Select Sires to an RA Brown Red Angus bull yesterday. Those heifers are slotted to be moved to a pasture for the summer roughly 100 miles away. I asked the COBA guy who did an awesome job for me on insemination his thought on how long to wait (If any) before hauling these heifers. He seemed unsure, so I put a call in to a neighbor who manages close to 1000 head and does AI. No answer so I called my cow vet and asked him. He gave me his definitive opinion which differed from the COBA rep. Immediately, the neighbor called back and gave me his opinion which was different from the other two. That being said, The neighbor seemed most certain, with studies he didn't have time to share to back his opinion. Here are the three opinions:

1- Wait 2 weeks to let them ovulate and settle
2- Wait 24 hours then haul them
3-I should wait 42 days but definitely don't move them in two weeks which will be the most fragile time. If I can't afford to wait 42 days, I'd be better to move them pretty immediately because two weeks will be a critical time for attatchment of the fetus.

Thoughts?
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Re: Hauling after AI

Postby Bestoutwest » Tue May 08, 2018 10:47 am

We have ours done at the vet's office. We have to pickup the same day they're AI'd. It's a 20 mile drive home for us. Out of 3 times I have had it stick 1 time. However, these were LH's and I have heard they have a harder time being AI'd than other breeds. Since it's anecdotal, take it for what's it's worth.....
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Re: Hauling after AI

Postby NEFarmwife » Tue May 08, 2018 12:21 pm

I’ve been told if you’re going to move them, do it within two days. Otherwise yes, you’re waiting.

If you’re moving them from pen to pasture, their feeding regimine can also cause stress as well. It’s suggested the most crucial time for a cow to settle and be stress free is atleast two weeks but we try for 30 days.

We just finished our AI of purebreds and insemintation of our donor. We have 6 recips ready as well. This bunch will stay home and out to graze a pasture adjoining our pens.

Everything else has been AI’d for atleast a month or better, that won’t go to pasture until we get this next AI set finished. Have 120 head we purchased recently that should show heat next few days. They’ll stay until mid June.

For what it’s worth, I think our conception rates have a lot to do with the timing in which we move them to pasture. We sit at roughly 80-86% on AI for last 4 years.

A guy we AI for, we AI in his pasture after they’ve been there a couple weeks. He calves much later than us. There is no way we could do that in our own operation but if you could get them to grass and then AI (if u need them moved sooner than later), I’d follow his approach. Depends on number of head.
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Re: Hauling after AI

Postby True Grit Farms » Tue May 08, 2018 12:40 pm

#3 is what I've always been told.
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Re: Hauling after AI

Postby Son of Butch » Tue May 08, 2018 12:43 pm

This topic was covered a couple years ago on this forum.
If I remember correctly 10-16 days was the worst time to move as that's the time period they're deciding to keep the pregnancy or discard and cycle again and if they had to be moved the best time was 1-6 days.
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Re: Hauling after AI

Postby hornedfrogbbq » Tue May 08, 2018 1:55 pm

If you have to move them, I have heard option 3 from most old timers and the guys that do the AI tech stuff down here for thousands of dairy cows. They always advised planning on a 30-40 day stay right by where you AI them. The less stress the better.
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Re: Hauling after AI

Postby bse » Tue May 08, 2018 3:15 pm

option 3 is spot on, load em right out of the chute, or wait
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Re: Hauling after AI (Immediately)

Postby Phil A. » Tue May 08, 2018 8:46 pm

Every year we have to haul our heifers to their pasture after AI. It is a very short haul say less than 5 miles. Literally we AI and load straight to the trailer and have them moved with in 1 hour of the straw thawing. Not sure if it is right but it is what we do. Every thing else we have built facilities where we can AI right in the pasture the cows will stay in for the summer. I have always been told 7-45 days is the absolute worst go before or go after.

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Re: Hauling after AI

Postby LCBulls » Tue May 08, 2018 11:00 pm

I believe that Butch is correct according to all the studies done. (ASAP Day 0-5) or after 45 Days.
Unfortunately it’s not possible for some, including us sometimes.
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Re: Hauling after AI

Postby okiek » Wed May 09, 2018 7:03 am

Thanks for the interest. It seems most agree with the neighbor. For these heifers to flourish, I really needed to move them. I could've easily moved them 30 days ago and found someone there to AI, but don't have the facilities there to accomplish it and don't have a relationship with a vet there. The neighbor and I are going to go over the study he cites on this matter as soon as we both have time. It was covered in a breeding seminar he attended.
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Re: Hauling after AI

Postby Dave » Wed May 09, 2018 11:41 am

I snyc'ed and AI'ed 60 heifers and hauled them the next day. I did that 4 years in a row. We bred the heifers on a Saturday in the afternoon. Gathered them first thing Sunday morning and hauled about 8 miles. It never caused an issue. I would either do it right away and wait over a month.
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Re: Hauling after AI

Postby torogmc81 » Wed May 09, 2018 2:07 pm

Don't haul between 4 and 40
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Re: Hauling after AI

Postby NEFarmwife » Wed May 09, 2018 3:46 pm

This popped up on Genex news feed.

Very in-depth.

https://www.facebook.com/GENEXBeef/post ... 7885543198
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Re: Hauling after AI

Postby okiek » Thu May 10, 2018 7:35 am

Thanks for sharing that Farmwife!! That was an excellent read and paired almost exactly to my neighbor's advice. Sounds to me like I hauled at the right time (Since I felt like I needed to haul). Hopefully I'll end up with some nice replacement heifers born next spring!!
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