B/R New Design and his son GAR Predestined = cow makers?

Breed your cows to the best bulls in the nation!
hornedfrogbbq
Cowhand
Cowhand
Posts: 54
Joined: Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:36 pm

B/R New Design and his son GAR Predestined = cow makers?

Postby hornedfrogbbq » Fri May 18, 2018 4:47 pm

Does anyone know the history of these two bulls and their "cow making" abilities? I know they both had good long runs and while not history makers with their EPD's, I'm less concerned (but some concerned) about those numbers. I'd much rather hear from folks with experience with them.

thanks for any feedback!
0 x

bse
GURU
GURU
Posts: 1143
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:50 pm
Location: middle tn

Re: B/R New Design and his son GAR Predestined = cow makers?

Postby bse » Fri May 18, 2018 5:10 pm

There both carriers, so no use to me, I think O36 was better than Predestined
0 x

User avatar
Ky hills
GURU
GURU
Posts: 1425
Joined: Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:54 pm
Location: Clark County, KY

Re: B/R New Design and his son GAR Predestined = cow makers?

Postby Ky hills » Fri May 18, 2018 6:12 pm

I, think that there will likely be some differing views about the cow making ability of those bulls. In my limited number of cows by them or with them in the pedigree, I liked them. They milked good and raised good calves. One of the other reasons that I liked them some others may not, was that they tended to have some frame. New Design is a bull that I like to see in a pedigree, and in my opinion Predestined is one of his best sons. One of my current bulls is a grandson of Predestined, by Power Tool.
0 x

Ebenezer
Rancher
Rancher
Posts: 914
Joined: Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:46 pm

Re: B/R New Design and his son GAR Predestined = cow makers?

Postby Ebenezer » Fri May 18, 2018 7:02 pm

036 mixed with other lines can be OK if you test for defects prior to buying. I would not go more than one time of 036 in the pedigree. He can fix a look in cows that some do not care for. Especially the head; sort of nail keg type. Predestined is not a heart throb for me. I thought so early on. But now, no.
0 x

Air gator
Trail Boss
Trail Boss
Posts: 372
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:09 pm

Re: B/R New Design and his son GAR Predestined = cow makers?

Postby Air gator » Fri May 18, 2018 8:17 pm

Here is an article on the passing of Gar Predestined.

https://www.drovers.com/article/legenda ... asses-away
0 x

User avatar
gizmom
GURU
GURU
Posts: 2678
Joined: Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:23 pm
Location: Molino Florida
Contact:

Re: B/R New Design and his son GAR Predestined = cow makers?

Postby gizmom » Sun May 20, 2018 1:31 pm

We had some 036, no females left in the herd, angular hard doing in our environment. Never used predestined the reason at the time was his scrotal measurement. Saved us a lot of headaches when he was found to be a carrier. That bull cost a lot of good people a whole lot of money. I see they didn’t mention his carrier status in the article.

Gizmom
0 x
Respect give it to get it!

W.B.
Cowhand
Cowhand
Posts: 134
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:21 pm
Location: SD

Re: B/R New Design and his son GAR Predestined = cow makers?

Postby W.B. » Mon May 21, 2018 6:51 am

Cow maker is not what comes to my mind with those two bulls. Too many problems with feet and udders.
0 x

Cdcollett
Beginner
Beginner
Posts: 13
Joined: Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:34 am

Re: B/R New Design and his son GAR Predestined = cow makers?

Postby Cdcollett » Mon May 28, 2018 10:22 am

Predestined was a solid foot improver. Not so on udders. That really followed the cow without improving or getting worse. I found them to be high capacity cows. For me the bulls were either really good or way too plain so they made good steers. Not consistent enough on the bull side. I still have several cows but the DD issue has made them commercial unless I have something worth testing there.
0 x


Return to “Artificial Insemination (AI) for Cattle”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests