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Re: Tear him apart but tell me I got my money worth

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:16 pm
by BK9954
ricebeltrancher wrote:My two cents, I think that you could do a lot worse for $1600. For where you are with your herd, and for what you're trying to do, I think you did really good. No, he's not "perfect", but he's a really good step in the right direction and KUDOS to you for going out and trying to do the best you could do with what you had to work with. You're only a little over an hour away from us, and so I know what kind of bulls a lot of people put out in their pastures in this part of Texas. Whatever's cheap, and it's usually not black. Good luck with him! I think he's a good start.

Thank you. I appreciate that.

Re: Tear him apart but tell me I got my money worth

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:05 am
by frieghttrain
ricebeltrancher wrote:My two cents, I think that you could do a lot worse for $1600. For where you are with your herd, and for what you're trying to do, I think you did really good. No, he's not "perfect", but he's a really good step in the right direction and KUDOS to you for going out and trying to do the best you could do with what you had to work with. You're only a little over an hour away from us, and so I know what kind of bulls a lot of people put out in their pastures in this part of Texas. Whatever's cheap, and it's usually not black. Good luck with him! I think he's a good start.

Well said :clap: (BK9954) Next time around buy a bull from Ricebeltrancher they have some great Brangus.

Re: Tear him apart but tell me I got my money worth

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:53 am
by BK9954
Updating an old post. Got the first 2 calves of the year from that brangus bull. The positives, both were very low birthweight and have plenty of ear. The negative is the steer got his sires hind end, it's too early to see the heifer, and they both came out brown, but hopefully they shed darker. The motley face out of a tigerstripe cow, the small heifer out of a commercial brangus cross cow. The brangus bull got REALLY aggressive with me so he went to the sale and I replaced him with this registered hereford. Really couldn't afford him but in life you pay for what you get. This bull should add some back the the next set of calves
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Re: Tear him apart but tell me I got my money worth

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:02 am
by ALACOWMAN
BK9954 wrote:I,am still beefing him of with groceries
you might be fattening him, but the beef part comes from the parents...he doesn't look the role of a moma maker.

Re: Tear him apart but tell me I got my money worth

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:10 am
by BK9954
ALACOWMAN wrote:
BK9954 wrote:I,am still beefing him of with groceries
you might be fattening him, but the beef part comes from the parents...he doesn't look the role of a moma maker.

In the update above the brangus went to the sale, he chased me twice. I should have sold him after the first. All of his offspring will be going to market in the spring.

Re: Tear him apart but tell me I got my money worth

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:19 am
by Kingfisher
Where is that Hereford bull from?

Re: Tear him apart but tell me I got my money worth

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:05 pm
by BK9954
From a breeder called "Lee Herefords" here in Tx. He has genetics all the way from Canada and Australia, AI'S and shares interest in some premium bulls. His herd was so perfect, all of his cows had perfect udders and eyes, even the 12 year olds. He knows his stuff and knows a lot of breeders. This bull was probably low cost as registered guys might say but for my cost he was high. His grandmother and mother were good looking.

Re: Tear him apart but tell me I got my money worth

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:17 pm
by BK9954
EPD'S and genetics. Doesn't mean a "whole" lot(with the low Acc) until I start getting his calves, then I will see how the investment pays off. It's better then taking a shot in the dark on a commercial. From what I can tell he is out of the Domino/Perfect Timing bloodline by researching his bloodline. His name is "night rider" but I call him Duke. Night rider would seem appropriate for a black bull, like the car was.
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Re: Tear him apart but tell me I got my money worth

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:23 pm
by Kingfisher
I think "night rider" is like you won't see him breed during the day...:)

Re: Tear him apart but tell me I got my money worth

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:34 pm
by BK9954
Kingfisher wrote:I think "night rider" is like you won't see him breed during the day...:)

Yeah the name doesn't fit him. He has bred the tigerstripe already in the middle of the Texas heat. He has been a very gentle bull with me and my kids, it's one of the things I likes about him.

Re: Tear him apart but tell me I got my money worth

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:39 pm
by ALACOWMAN
BK9954 wrote:
ALACOWMAN wrote:
BK9954 wrote:I,am still beefing him of with groceries
you might be fattening him, but the beef part comes from the parents...he doesn't look the role of a moma maker.

In the update above the brangus went to the sale, he chased me twice. I should have sold him after the first. All of his offspring will be going to market in the spring.

Sorry bout the post then...just scanned over it..and was talking when I should have been listening..good luck with the new one...

Re: Tear him apart but tell me I got my money worth

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:16 pm
by Brute 23
Rafter S wrote:
ricebeltrancher wrote:My two cents, I think that you could do a lot worse for $1600. For where you are with your herd, and for what you're trying to do, I think you did really good. No, he's not "perfect", but he's a really good step in the right direction and KUDOS to you for going out and trying to do the best you could do with what you had to work with. You're only a little over an hour away from us, and so I know what kind of bulls a lot of people put out in their pastures in this part of Texas. Whatever's cheap, and it's usually not black. Good luck with him! I think he's a good start.


Very well said.


I agree.... and the proof is in the pudding. When you see his calves you will know your answer.

Re: Tear him apart but tell me I got my money worth

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:21 pm
by Allenw
BK9954 wrote:From a breeder called "Lee Herefords" here in Tx. He has genetics all the way from Canada and Australia, AI'S and shares interest in some premium bulls. His herd was so perfect, all of his cows had perfect udders and eyes, even the 12 year olds. He knows his stuff and knows a lot of breeders. This bull was probably low cost as registered guys might say but for my cost he was high. His grandmother and mother were good looking.


It's rough trying to justify a good bull to move you forward when you only have a few cows and will need another bull in a couple of years if your keeping heifers.

Re: Tear him apart but tell me I got my money worth

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:54 pm
by BK9954
Allenw wrote:
BK9954 wrote:From a breeder called "Lee Herefords" here in Tx. He has genetics all the way from Canada and Australia, AI'S and shares interest in some premium bulls. His herd was so perfect, all of his cows had perfect udders and eyes, even the 12 year olds. He knows his stuff and knows a lot of breeders. This bull was probably low cost as registered guys might say but for my cost he was high. His grandmother and mother were good looking.


It's rough trying to justify a good bull to move you forward when you only have a few cows and will need another bull in a couple of years if your keeping heifers.

He is not quite 2 years old and I won't retain any of his heifers. I am pretty much running him on black cows now and that's really what I prefer him on...... but the W-4 ranch is having a sale next month, haven't looked at the catalog yet. All the baldies he produces will be sold. Heifers take too long to blossom so I don't plan on keeping or buyin anymore. I have matured 3 sets if heifers in a seperate pasture for 3 years, I have enough. Just mature cows are being added from here on out. One year of his calves will pay for the difference in $1400 that I paid. I can have either good calves or bad, but you pay for what you get.