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Re: Thoughts about this heifer

Postby Supa Dexta » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:36 pm

Hardly anyone is.. Its a real problem in this industry.
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Re: Thoughts about this heifer

Postby Muddy » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:00 pm

Supa Dexta wrote:Hardly anyone is.. Its a real problem in this industry.

So? A lame "pet" heifer won't have any effect on the beef industry anyways.
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Re: Thoughts about this heifer

Postby ALACOWMAN » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:19 pm

Muddy wrote:
Supa Dexta wrote:Hardly anyone is.. Its a real problem in this industry.

So? A lame "pet" heifer won't have any effect on the beef industry anyways.

Will the buyers in your area be able to tell if one is lame??
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Re: Thoughts about this heifer

Postby Caustic Burno » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:41 pm

Supa Dexta wrote:Hardly anyone is.. Its a real problem in this industry.

You are 100% correct too many running back 40 cattle period.
To many hatchet a$$ cattle that won’t grade go through the barn every week.
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Re: Thoughts about this heifer

Postby lithuanian farmer » Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:39 am

ALACOWMAN wrote:
Muddy wrote:
Supa Dexta wrote:Hardly anyone is.. Its a real problem in this industry.

So? A lame "pet" heifer won't have any effect on the beef industry anyways.

Will the buyers in your area be able to tell if one is lame??

They buys all cattle. They have to be alive and no drugs used.
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Re: Thoughts about this heifer

Postby lithuanian farmer » Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:05 am

Heifer was AI'ed on 24th and 25th of January. Preg checked today- pregnant. Due to calve on 5th-6th of November with easy calving Red Angus.

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Re: Thoughts about this heifer

Postby elkwc » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:24 am

Glad she is safe in calf. She fits your program so hopefully she will produce what you are expecting. I would never cull one because they wouldn't settle AI. One of if not the best cow we have on the place would never settle AI but always settle the first time natural service and that is the reason why she was sold and I got her bought. They had attempted to AI her twice the year beofore I purchased her and then turned her out and bred her naturally. She was a late calver due to that so have left her with the bull after calving and she is moving up 4-6 weeks every year. Last year her calf was born almost 3 weeks before we turned the bulls out. She will calve soon this year. A very nice cow that is doing us a lot of good. We kept the bull calf she was carrying when I bought her and he is the growthiest Angus I've ever raised and his first calves look good. I had some heifers AIed by timed heat and not a one settled bul all settled the first time when put with a bull naturally. To be fair we only tried once and then waited to see if they were bred and turned them with the bull. It was a small number deal so knew there was the possibility. And these are all AI technicians who are successful and do a lot. So from my experience I would never cull one because she didn't settle AI.
I know many like Ron have great luck AIing. I also know several like me who have tried smaller numbers and not as much luck. I've heard many techs claim that they have better luck settling cows from certain bulls than they do others.
So good that your tried again and that she settled.
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Re: Thoughts about this heifer

Postby lithuanian farmer » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:22 am

We cut the amount of meal and stopped giving rapeseed meal and corn/sugar beet meal some time before her last time, because that there were other heifers not settling. From six two stuck on their first AI, two on the 2nd, and two on the 3rd. Some just needed abit of change in ration, I guess.
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Re: Thoughts about this heifer

Postby JohnPeterson » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:08 pm

I would breed her sooner rather than later. She will be too heavy by the time she calves if you let her go longer.
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Re: Thoughts about this heifer

Postby lithuanian farmer » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:49 pm

Too heavy for what? We prefer bigger cows. Plus you wouldn't want to be calving such heifer, which also would be small.
She's moving very well, and she bears weight on all her legs equally well. Saw her keeping her rear weight on the leg, which was injured without any trouble, so probably it's gonna be just an aesthetical problem. No show ring for her... Haven't seen that her leg would cause any kind of trouble for a long time. However, we won't be letting her with a bull to avoid any bigger weight on her rear. Of course, always going to watch if there are any trouble, but she has been fine since last spring.
She's bred already. For around 2.5 months.
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Re: Thoughts about this heifer

Postby lithuanian farmer » Sat May 12, 2018 6:00 am

Update photos of the heifer. She's ~1400lbs now.
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Re: Thoughts about this heifer

Postby lithuanian farmer » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:13 am

Really happy about my girl. She still has three months until calving, but you already can see her udder preparing. I had quite a worry that she might be very short in milk. Her full sister is, actually... But this girl seems to be better than her sister in almost all aspects.
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It's going to be very interesting to see her calf. Can't stop thinking what I could use on her for the second calf...
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Re: Thoughts about this heifer

Postby farmerjan » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:34 am

She has really grown out nicely. Looks like the leg is less of an issue than earlier so I am glad for you that you kept her and bred her. I know some on here are not into the musculature that you have over there, but I really like animals that have more muscle. Just not the market here and in this area they have to be black. Drives me nuts to not get a decent price for a real nice red calf. They will get discounted every time. Wish we had more markets available that grade like yours so that they would not look at the color first.
I like your cattle and I think that you have a good plan to have cattle that fit the available markets there.
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Re: Thoughts about this heifer

Postby lithuanian farmer » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:55 am

farmerjan wrote:She has really grown out nicely. Looks like the leg is less of an issue than earlier so I am glad for you that you kept her and bred her. I know some on here are not into the musculature that you have over there, but I really like animals that have more muscle. Just not the market here and in this area they have to be black. Drives me nuts to not get a decent price for a real nice red calf. They will get discounted every time. Wish we had more markets available that grade like yours so that they would not look at the color first.
I like your cattle and I think that you have a good plan to have cattle that fit the available markets there.

Thank you for your nice words! I truly understand why some don't like muscular cattle. It's really adds more time and planning to work with them, but there still is a big risk of calving. This heifer was born as a slim, average calf, but her full sister was born muscular and pretty big.
And also it's harder to put fat on more muscled animals.
Here also are some more preferred breeds. Some buy any breed, but a lot prefer Limousine and Angus. I personally would like to buy another breed bull, but it's quite a hard thing to decide, when you know that limo and angus cross cattle are needed for everybody. One company, which buys heifers, don't need Belgian blue, Piedmontese and Blonde d'Aquitaine cross animals. We'll have some such calves pretty soon, so hopefully all heifers will be fit to be replacements and won't need to cull any.
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