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Re: Santa gurtrudis cross cattle!!

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:36 am
by Caustic Burno
ALACOWMAN wrote:
BC wrote:To answer the question of why Gerts don't "chrome" up, they were selected for solid color. I like a little white on the udders of my Gert cows. My experience is those cows seem to milk a little heavier. I have seen the same thing in Brangus.

Caustic, the breed has changed from your and mine younger days. They are not your uncle's Gerts. Here is a picture of a late 1960's early 70's bull and a modern Gert bull.

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. Yep that older bull's type really hurt the breed....and it's been a struggle to recover..ad that and bad temperament... And they seemed more trouble than they were worth...you could build a saddle outa that sheath..


They were firecrackers for sure, but to be fair cattle management was a lot different then as well.
Those girls back then would eat you.
I have doctored a many a tally wacker on those early Gert bulls.
Killed one as well my uncle bought off the King ranch.

Re: Santa gurtrudis cross cattle!!

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:41 am
by ALACOWMAN
Remember going to Montgomery to the livestock show an rodeo...those gerts were monsters... Walk past the ones tied up... I'm 6'3 and looked like their tail head was right at face level... Like a draft horse,,all frame

Re: Santa gurtrudis cross cattle!!

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:44 am
by Ky hills
Cows came up this morning, I feed them a little once or twice a week during the summer. Someone mentioned goggle eyes on the Hereford/Gert crosses, so I tried to get some pictures of some of mine. These are just commercial cows purchased from a Hereford influence sale so I don't really know exactly the breeding, but since there seem to be more Gerts around here than some of the other crosses I am guessing that is what they are.
This cow has red covering more of her face on the other side, making for a wide blaze face.
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This is her Hereford sired bull calf, will be a steer a little later.
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A goggle eyed cow,
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A Hereford sired calf out of a Beefmaster cow for comparison on coloring.
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Re: Santa gurtrudis cross cattle!!

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:58 am
by ALACOWMAN
Good looking cattle.....

Re: Santa gurtrudis cross cattle!!

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:26 am
by BC
Rafter S wrote:
BC wrote:To answer the question of why Gerts don't "chrome" up, they were selected for solid color. I like a little white on the udders of my Gert cows. My experience is those cows seem to milk a little heavier. I have seen the same thing in Brangus.

Caustic, the breed has changed from your and mine younger days. They are not your uncle's Gerts. Here is a picture of a late 1960's early 70's bull and a modern Gert bull.

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BC,

Do you know if anyone maintained any of the Mayfair Gert bloodlines?

Rafter S, Allen Grainger and his wife Cheryl have some Mayfair bloodlines. Allen was Mr. Butler's grandson. They use the Ronking A brand.

Re: Santa gurtrudis cross cattle!!

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:26 am
by BC
Here are some Gert cross ptictures:

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Santa Gertrudis sired calf out of a Charolais cow



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Santa Gertrudis x Angus


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Santa Gertrudis x Red Angus

Re: Santa gurtrudis cross cattle!!

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:30 am
by Muddy
At least they don't have black Santa Gertrudis, so it's a plus for them.

Re: Santa gurtrudis cross cattle!!

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:07 am
by Rafter S
BC wrote:
Rafter S wrote:
BC wrote:To answer the question of why Gerts don't "chrome" up, they were selected for solid color. I like a little white on the udders of my Gert cows. My experience is those cows seem to milk a little heavier. I have seen the same thing in Brangus.

Caustic, the breed has changed from your and mine younger days. They are not your uncle's Gerts. Here is a picture of a late 1960's early 70's bull and a modern Gert bull.

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BC,

Do you know if anyone maintained any of the Mayfair Gert bloodlines?

Rafter S, Allen Grainger and his wife Cheryl have some Mayfair bloodlines. Allen was Mr. Butler's grandson. They use the Ronking A brand.


I'm glad to hear that. Mr. Theek raised some nice cattle.

Re: Santa gurtrudis cross cattle!!

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:09 pm
by Badtrain80
Lots of good info!! So what would be better bull for my cows. I have four brangus cross and one Hereford cow. The Santa Gertrudis bull is available if I want to use him again! What do y'all think? Here is pic of the bull
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Re: Santa gurtrudis cross cattle!!

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:15 pm
by Badtrain80
Here are pics of the three calves from this bull!!
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Re: Santa gurtrudis cross cattle!!

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:26 pm
by ALACOWMAN
Badtrain80 wrote:Here are pics of the three calves from this bull!!
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He's a decent looking bull,,maybe not being used to his full potential,,as far as the brangus momas go... But the calves look good... Like to use him on some good whiteface or red Angus cows... You sho could knock a homer...

Re: Santa gurtrudis cross cattle!!

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:41 pm
by Brute 23
Badtrain80 wrote:Here are pics of the three calves from this bull!!
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I think your jumping the gun judging the bull off those 3 calves.

Re: Santa gurtrudis cross cattle!!

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:42 pm
by Badtrain80
Brute 23 wrote:
Badtrain80 wrote:Here are pics of the three calves from this bull!!
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I think your jumping the gun judging the bull off those 3 calves.


I understand what your saying about jumping the gun! I was just going based on what I read from other ppl on here! I don't know much about cattle everything I know about them i learned from one rancher and google lol. I bought a small ranch just two years ago and started to buy some cows due to the fact that it came with two and I needed at least three for tax purposes!! It's all a learning curve for me!! Thanks for your input and everyone else too!

Re: Santa gurtrudis cross cattle!!

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:11 pm
by dun
Badtrain80 wrote: It's all a learning curve for me!!

I've been at a goodly number of years and it still is a learning curve for me too.

Re: Santa gurtrudis cross cattle!!

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:57 pm
by ALACOWMAN
dun wrote:
Badtrain80 wrote: It's all a learning curve for me!!

I've been at a goodly number of years and it still is a learning curve for me too.
always, when your toes are pointed straight up, you can be pretty much assured you're done learning...