European Beefmaster Heard growing

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Re: European Beefmaster Heard growing

Postby Brute 23 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:34 am

Plenty of Brahman influence in the area. I'm not arguing profitability or any thing... Just saying they do exist and live up North.

I predict in the next 10 years you are going to see a shift in how most people view Brahman cattle and the beef they produce.
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Re: European Beefmaster Heard growing

Postby gaurus » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:45 am

Brute 23 wrote: I predict in the next 10 years you are going to see a shift in how most people view Brahman cattle and the beef they produce.


Why? What has changed in their genotype that will make their beef better? A shift towards lean beef? Their lean beef is really not the issue, it’s the lack of tenderness on their beef that is a hard sell and unless there is a serious shift towards Genetic Marker and EPDs for tenderness on the breed I just don’t see this happening.

Now Composites are a different story because they have the genetic resources(from their British/Continental DNA) to breed for tenderness and marbling markers.
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Re: European Beefmaster Heard growing

Postby Brute 23 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:57 am

gaurus wrote:
Brute 23 wrote: I predict in the next 10 years you are going to see a shift in how most people view Brahman cattle and the beef they produce.


Why? What has changed in their genotype that will make their beef better? A shift towards lean beef? Their lean beef is really not the issue, it’s the lack of tenderness on their beef that is a hard sell and unless there is a serious shift towards Genetic Marker and EPDs for tenderness on the breed I just don’t see this happening.

Now Composites are a different story because they have the genetic resources(from their British/Continental DNA) to breed for tenderness and marbling markers.


From what I have see some of the larger Brahman breeders are moving toward pushing for feedlot tests and grade tests on the Brahman bulls. Now if you are a purebred breeder they are sending all the bulls off to be fed a graded. They are marketing them to buyers with that info.

I sat thru hours and hours of calves last week. The quality Brahman bull calves were with in .15 of the Char calves, which are to the top sellers, and with in .10 of the solid blacks (#2 sellers). The heifers were over $2. Saw several go for 2.2 or 2.3. Thats a solid dollar or more over their heifer counter parts.

End result, you are still taking more dollars home but marketing and breeding over the next 10 years could really close that gap on the bull calves.

Im not talking about these stringy things people on here want to push as being Brahman cattle... Im talking the modern, American, Brahman cattle.
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Re: European Beefmaster Heard growing

Postby skeeter swatter » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:27 am

When I came to this area I brought a few BMs with me. Good cattle, but they took the winters pretty hard.
The BMs cross British however outgained everything in sight, stayed fat year 'round and sold right with my Chars.
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Re: European Beefmaster Heard growing

Postby OzssieDave19 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:32 am

Its funny. Here in Australia in the late 70's onwards until the 90's when they disapeared Beefmaster was a crossbreed that was used to introduce simmental genetics into the country while people bred up pure simmental. They were say half hereford half simmental.
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Re: European Beefmaster Heard growing

Postby Rafter S » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:58 pm

OzssieDave19 wrote:Its funny. Here in Australia in the late 70's onwards until the 90's when they disapeared Beefmaster was a crossbreed that was used to introduce simmental genetics into the country while people bred up pure simmental. They were say half hereford half simmental.


That sounds like a completely different use of the same name. American Beefmasters are a breed established decades ago, made up of roughly half Brahman, and a quarter each of Hereford and Shorthorn.
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Re: European Beefmaster Heard growing

Postby Muddy » Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:50 pm

I thought it was a Beefmaker for Simmental x Hereford composite?
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Re: European Beefmaster Heard growing

Postby dieselbeef » Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:17 am

even the ear here is brutal..and we need it..mine are beefmasters..I don't see the problem
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Re: European Beefmaster Heard growing

Postby True Grit Farms » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:59 am

dieselbeef wrote:even the ear here is brutal..and we need it..mine are beefmasters..I don't see the problem

The Brangus bull is the best thing that ever happened to the Brahman.
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Re: European Beefmaster Heard growing

Postby dieselbeef » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:18 am

gggrrrrrrrr
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Re: European Beefmaster Heard growing

Postby True Grit Farms » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:29 am

dieselbeef wrote:gggrrrrrrrr

Well I was just being honest. Growing up it was always Brahman or horned Hereford bulls over cracker cows down there. I'm a Beefmaster fan and have a few myself, I just can't bring myself to go hog wild with them.
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Re: European Beefmaster Heard growing

Postby dieselbeef » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:55 am

man they work good for me..everyone always compliments me..i avg above in the mrkts...idk man they do me right..you couldn't give me an angus..and Herefords are ugly and not popular here thos a few bulls are around almost all of em are shipped in form out of state
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