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Salorn

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:22 pm
by mpassmore85
Does anyone know where one could find some registered Salorn cattle from?

In southern Alberta and can’t find anything. Travel don’t matter a ton within 1500 or so miles

Re: Salorn

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:53 pm
by Muddy
mpassmore85 wrote:Does anyone know where one could find some registered Salorn cattle from?

In southern Alberta and can’t find anything. Travel don’t matter a ton within 1500 or so miles

I think they're "extinct" or just disappeared. Lot of old composite breeds are either gone or extremely rare. Why not buy a saler bull and put him on your cows?

Re: Salorn

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:36 pm
by mpassmore85
4 generations for proper ratio.

Re: Salorn

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:33 am
by Rafter S
I'd never heard of them. Had to ask Mr. Google. I can't understand why a composite of two relatively unpopular breeds didn't take off.

(Someone told me we're supposed to use purple text to denote sarcasm.)

Re: Salorn

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:51 am
by Ky hills
I recently had posted about thinking I had wound up with a couple percentage longhorns, before that I had never thought much about them at all, and knew nothing about them. After reading a lot about them, they probably do have some positive traits, but to me they just aren't something I would want a whole herd of, a few might be ok. As for Saler, I don't have a lot of first hand knowledge about either, but from what I have seen I'm not impressed. I have heard some folks say they are about the worst disposition cattle they have seen. The few that I have had or seen have been finer boned and curly haired which is a no no for me, I like cattle that are at least fairly slick haired. I'm sure there are good ones out there, just commenting on what I have seen.

Re: Salorn

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:20 am
by crossbredcalves
I don't have registered Salorns, but I have been breeding my Longhorn cross cows to a Saler bull for several years. The only better calves I have had out of these cows were out of a Charolais bull. The "Salorn" calves have been good for me. The steers have grown well, and I have 3 heifers I kept back last year to add to the herd this winter. We shall see how they do as cows.

Re: Salorn

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:18 am
by Nesikep
KYhills, yes, 20 years ago Salers did have bad dispositions.. for some that was a good thing when the cows really had to defend calves from predators, they did it very effectively... I do hear the breed as a whole has gotten much better recently. It's been 20 years since we had a Saler bull. They are finer boned, I don't mind that, I don't eat bone.. and the curly fur I have never noticed at all. SOME of my Saler influenced cows are the most docile I've ever had.
I'd be far more interested in a Gelbvieh/Saler cross.. probably between 1/2-3/4 GV would be good... Gelbvieh would shrink the mature cow size a little, both are meaty, Salers tend to be LONG, with exceptional udders, hooves, milk and calving ability

Re: Salorn

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:35 pm
by Bigfoot
If salers haven't calmed down, you cross that with the LH ability to jump, and you'd have a formidable combination.

Re: Salorn

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:44 pm
by Lazy M
Some of the salers that I've dealt with make me cringe whenever I think of them. Evil, evil witches.

Re: Salorn

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:53 am
by WinterSpringsFarm
I have a good friend that raises top notch Saler cattle. They are as good as the good one from any other breed. I never knew of them before I met him.

Re: Salorn

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:04 pm
by wildcatkit52
crossbredcalves wrote:I don't have registered Salorns, but I have been breeding my Longhorn cross cows to a Saler bull for several years. The only better calves I have had out of these cows were out of a Charolais bull. The "Salorn" calves have been good for me. The steers have grown well, and I have 3 heifers I kept back last year to add to the herd this winter. We shall see how they do as cows.


Thought I'd check in and see how your heifers are fairing. Also thought I'd ask where you are located.

Kit

Re: Salorn

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:43 pm
by Nesikep
Bigfoot wrote:If salers haven't calmed down, you cross that with the LH ability to jump, and you'd have a formidable combination.

The Saler has an exceptional ability to jump as it is

wildcatkit52 wrote:
crossbredcalves wrote:I don't have registered Salorns, but I have been breeding my Longhorn cross cows to a Saler bull for several years. The only better calves I have had out of these cows were out of a Charolais bull. The "Salorn" calves have been good for me. The steers have grown well, and I have 3 heifers I kept back last year to add to the herd this winter. We shall see how they do as cows.


Thought I'd check in and see how your heifers are fairing. Also thought I'd ask where you are located.

Kit

He's in southern Alberta (per first post)..

I'd like to hear how things worked out too.

One thing I'd like to add is that more important than exact breed % composition, in my eyes at least, is the individuals in that breed.
I have some 15/16th siblings.. they differ by a great grandma.. they're completely different animals and continue to be while some less related animals from the same maternal line are far more similar

Re: Salorn

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:14 pm
by crossbredcalves
wildcatkit52 wrote:
crossbredcalves wrote:I don't have registered Salorns, but I have been breeding my Longhorn cross cows to a Saler bull for several years. The only better calves I have had out of these cows were out of a Charolais bull. The "Salorn" calves have been good for me. The steers have grown well, and I have 3 heifers I kept back last year to add to the herd this winter. We shall see how they do as cows.


Thought I'd check in and see how your heifers are fairing. Also thought I'd ask where you are located.

Kit


I’m in Northeast Arkansas. The heifers look great. They should start calving beginning of September. Two have started getting loose in the bag and rear end.

Re: Salorn

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:47 pm
by Son of Butch
crossbredcalves wrote:I don't have registered Salorns, but I have been breeding my Longhorn cross cows to a Saler bull for several years.
The only better calves I have had out of these cows were out of a Charolais bull.

Then why do you choose to continue to use a Saler bull over a Charolais bull?

Re: Salorn

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:16 am
by elkwc
Nesikep wrote:KYhills, yes, 20 years ago Salers did have bad dispositions.. for some that was a good thing when the cows really had to defend calves from predators, they did it very effectively... I do hear the breed as a whole has gotten much better recently. It's been 20 years since we had a Saler bull. They are finer boned, I don't mind that, I don't eat bone.. and the curly fur I have never noticed at all. SOME of my Saler influenced cows are the most docile I've ever had.
I'd be far more interested in a Gelbvieh/Saler cross.. probably between 1/2-3/4 GV would be good... Gelbvieh would shrink the mature cow size a little, both are meaty, Salers tend to be LONG, with exceptional udders, hooves, milk and calving ability


IMO if I had a docility issue I wouldn’t use a Gelbvieh. I’m basing that strictly on our experience with one bull so a limited group but have heard similar stories. It is frustrating when you have to cull some of your best replacements for docility issues.