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Re: Brahman

Postby Silver » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:20 pm

I worked for an outfit when I was fresh out of high school, ran a bunch of black cattle. Bought a bunch of Brangus bulls, turns out you can't use them here.
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Re: Brahman

Postby Caustic Burno » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:29 pm

ALACOWMAN wrote:Where do those calves go from there??


I would think it’s more of a quality issue. Lots of folks in Oklahoma running Brahman operations.
Most here Cowman go to the panhandle or Greeley Co.
Here is last Tuesday price at Crockett the vast majority are Brahman cross calves headed to the same spot.
http://www.easttexaslivestock.com/market-reports/
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Re: Brahman

Postby ALACOWMAN » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:33 pm

Silver wrote:I worked for an outfit when I was fresh out of high school, ran a bunch of black cattle. Bought a bunch of Brangus bulls, turns out you can't use them here.

No doubt... I bet your cattle"""as nice as they are""""wouldn't be the same animal down here
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Re: Brahman

Postby Silver » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:35 pm

ALACOWMAN wrote:
Silver wrote:I worked for an outfit when I was fresh out of high school, ran a bunch of black cattle. Bought a bunch of Brangus bulls, turns out you can't use them here.

No doubt... I bet your cattle"""as nice as they are""""wouldn't be the same animal down here


That's a fact

Reason we couldn't use them was the bulls froze a pretty essential part of their anatomy. We did get some females from them, and I thought they were a better beef animal than straight BA, although at that time temperament was an issue.
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Re: Brahman

Postby ALACOWMAN » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:42 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
ALACOWMAN wrote:Where do those calves go from there??


I would think it’s more of a quality issue...... coulda been...
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Re: Brahman

Postby ALACOWMAN » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:49 pm

Silver wrote:
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Silver wrote:I worked for an outfit when I was fresh out of high school, ran a bunch of black cattle. Bought a bunch of Brangus bulls, turns out you can't use them here.

No doubt... I bet your cattle"""as nice as they are""""wouldn't be the same animal down here


That's a fact

Reason we couldn't use them was the bulls froze a pretty essential part of their anatomy. We did get some females from them, and I thought they were a better beef animal than straight BA, although at that time temperament was an issue.
hadn't thought about the frozen Wacker..yet another reason they don't work in cold climates..
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Re: Brahman

Postby AZAggie » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:54 pm

Brute 23 wrote:We sold calves last week and got 1.88 on bulls #300-400, 1.58 on #450-500 bulls, 1.25 on heifers #650-750. They all had Brahman influence.

How much Brahman influence are we talking? Do you have any pics of the calves? I suspect the .90 had more to do with the quality of the animal than the breed.
50% Brahman 50% Angus. The calves looked good. 7-8 months old. Between 500-600 lbs. Around here, it's all about black and absolutely no ear. Black baldies do very well if not better. All but one of my remaining calves are black or black baldies. I think I hit the sale at the wrong time too. My full time job isn't too flexible and I took them when I had a chance.
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Re: Brahman

Postby AZAggie » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:00 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
ALACOWMAN wrote:Where do those calves go from there??


I would think it’s more of a quality issue. Lots of folks in Oklahoma running Brahman operations.
Most here Cowman go to the panhandle or Greeley Co.
Here is last Tuesday price at Crockett the vast majority are Brahman cross calves headed to the same spot.
http://www.easttexaslivestock.com/market-reports/
Very few Brahman cattle out in Southwestern OK. I know of one ranch around Cordell and that's it. I don't see the Herefords around like I did when I was younger. All black cattle with some red Angus here and there.
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Re: Brahman

Postby Brute 23 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:11 pm

AZAggie wrote:
Brute 23 wrote:We sold calves last week and got 1.88 on bulls #300-400, 1.58 on #450-500 bulls, 1.25 on heifers #650-750. They all had Brahman influence.

How much Brahman influence are we talking? Do you have any pics of the calves? I suspect the .90 had more to do with the quality of the animal than the breed.
50% Brahman 50% Angus. The calves looked good. 7-8 months old. Between 500-600 lbs. Around here, it's all about black and absolutely no ear. Black baldies do very well if not better. All but one of my remaining calves are black or black baldies. I think I hit the sale at the wrong time too. My full time job isn't too flexible and I took them when I had a chance.


Black Angus or Red Angus? They weren't all black with that cross?

#500-600 is light for an F1 at 7-8 months.
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Re: Brahman

Postby elkwc » Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:44 pm

AZAggie wrote:
ALACOWMAN wrote:Where do those calves go from there??
I'm not sure. Probably to the TX panhandle. I'm almost exactly half way between Oklahoma City and Amarillo right on I-40.


Are you around the Elk City, OK area? Just curious. We sell there and at Woodward. Elk is a little closer.
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Re: Brahman

Postby wacocowboy » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:57 am

Did the buyer wear a mask and have a gun?

Around here those calves if good would of been toward the top of the market.
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Re: Brahman

Postby JWBrahman » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:05 am

AZAggie wrote:My Brahman experiment is over. I took some Brahman/Angus cross calves to the sale Friday and got killed. Around here, if they aren't black or black baldies, they aren't worth your time.I was expecting to get docked some, but I got more for an old cow with a bad foot then I did for a 600 lb steer.


It's not the best time to be selling. US Farm Report said we are in a glut of beef, chicken, and pork right now. On top of that, you can usually expect less for a Brahman F1 in the fall than in the spring.

Farm income is down for the third year in a row. The big Wigger Ranch in Louisiana has 700,000 acres. They just put most of it in the federal conservation program.

You gotta have a plan b, c, and d to make money this year and the next few years. Too many people over expanded trying to compensate for lower prices.
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Re: Brahman

Postby AZAggie » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:37 pm

elkwc wrote:
AZAggie wrote:
ALACOWMAN wrote:Where do those calves go from there??
I'm not sure. Probably to the TX panhandle. I'm almost exactly half way between Oklahoma City and Amarillo right on I-40.


Are you around the Elk City, OK area? Just curious. We sell there and at Woodward. Elk is a little closer.
Yes. I took them to Elk City. I live outside of Sayre.
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Re: Brahman

Postby AZAggie » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:39 pm

wacocowboy wrote:Did the buyer wear a mask and have a gun?

Around here those calves if good would of been toward the top of the market.
Unfortunately I didn't see who bought them.
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Re: Brahman

Postby elkwc » Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:53 am

AZAggie wrote:
elkwc wrote:
AZAggie wrote: I'm not sure. Probably to the TX panhandle. I'm almost exactly half way between Oklahoma City and Amarillo right on I-40.


Are you around the Elk City, OK area? Just curious. We sell there and at Woodward. Elk is a little closer.
Yes. I took them to Elk City. I live outside of Sayre.


I figured you must live in that area by your comment. We used to sell everything at Woodward except for a single every year or so. Have started taking more down there. Have had just a good of results and 10 miles or so closer. With their big sales a person needs to take them a day early at Woodward. I take it you were there last Friday? I was in and out a few times. Then we left as we knew it would be later before ours sold. We were pleased with what they brought for what they were.
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