Black Cross-Bred Texas Longhorn Cattle

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Re: Black Cross-Bred Texas Longhorn Cattle

Postby Muddy » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:33 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
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mpassmore85 wrote:Attached are 6 month old heifers (averaging 600-680 lbs) Angus cross. All at least 75% longhorn blood. (Solid cows make solid calves)

Great heifers for any beef program I’d use black simmental myself to beef up a bit more
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I could not tell those have 75% Longhorn genetics. Wow!


What is even more amazing is the African horn gene didn’t show up on any .
You can’t breed it out as it is a dominant gene.

I believe that African gene isn't common in longhorns. I believe it's only 5% in longhorns have that African horn gene...my guess they got it from Watusi.
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Re: Black Cross-Bred Texas Longhorn Cattle

Postby Bullitt » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:35 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
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mpassmore85 wrote:Attached are 6 month old heifers (averaging 600-680 lbs) Angus cross. All at least 75% longhorn blood. (Solid cows make solid calves)

Great heifers for any beef program I’d use black simmental myself to beef up a bit more
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I could not tell those have 75% Longhorn genetics. Wow!


What is even more amazing is the African horn gene didn’t show up on any .
You can’t breed it out as it is a dominant gene.


This is what I was thinking about. A Texas Longhorn cross that is all black. Here it is.

You can't go wrong with beef cattle that look like that.
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Re: Black Cross-Bred Texas Longhorn Cattle

Postby bird dog » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:36 pm

It really doesn't matter if you if you receive the "premium check". Its nice when does happen but that ain't what its all about. What matters is your costs versus your return. Yeah it would be great to have a bunch of front pasture F1 tigers prancing around but I'll take a good return on my investment however I can get it. I guess that is why my herd is a motley crew of some really good cattle mixed with some mutts. Bargains can be found in all sixes, colors and ages. Once the return on investment starts to go the wrong way, the cow hits the hi-way.
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Re: Black Cross-Bred Texas Longhorn Cattle

Postby Bullitt » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:39 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:F-1 Tiger Hereford/Brahman
Yellow baldie Char over Hereford
or over F-1’s.



Yellow baldies sound good. I think the F-1 Tigers would be more disease and heat resistant, and then put the Charolais bull over them.

Do you happen to have a picture of some Yellow baldies?
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Re: Black Cross-Bred Texas Longhorn Cattle

Postby Muddy » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:46 pm

Beware! Regional sale barns can be different from other regional sale barns. Here, black hided cattle are king, next to solid reds and CharX. That said, the buyers hate shorthorns and Limousins but loves Simmentals. I guess I can't say anything about the eared breeds since they are very uncommon where I lives. F1 Braford cows cannot tolerate our harsh winters but the Longhorns can.
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Re: Black Cross-Bred Texas Longhorn Cattle

Postby Caustic Burno » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:48 pm

Muddy wrote:
Caustic Burno wrote:
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I could not tell those have 75% Longhorn genetics. Wow!


What is even more amazing is the African horn gene didn’t show up on any .
You can’t breed it out as it is a dominant gene.

I believe that African gene isn't common in longhorns. I believe it's only 5% in longhorns have that African horn gene...my guess they got it from Watusi.



Need to do a little lite reading.

https://news.utexas.edu/2013/03/26/the- ... me-decoded
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Re: Black Cross-Bred Texas Longhorn Cattle

Postby Caustic Burno » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:51 pm

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Caustic Burno wrote:F-1 Tiger Hereford/Brahman
Yellow baldie Char over Hereford
or over F-1’s.



Yellow baldies sound good. I think the F-1 Tigers would be more disease and heat resistant, and then put the Charolais bull over them.

Do you happen to have a picture of some Yellow baldies?




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Re: Black Cross-Bred Texas Longhorn Cattle

Postby Muddy » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:56 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
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What is even more amazing is the African horn gene didn’t show up on any .
You can’t breed it out as it is a dominant gene.

I believe that African gene isn't common in longhorns. I believe it's only 5% in longhorns have that African horn gene...my guess they got it from Watusi.



Need to do a little lite reading.

https://news.utexas.edu/2013/03/26/the- ... me-decoded

And I did. It doesn't say African horn gene is common in longhorn breed, just in few individuals and from what I seen, majority of longhorns didn't carrying the African horn gene when they're bred to polled bulls. You makes it sounds like every longhorn cow has African horn gene.
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Re: Black Cross-Bred Texas Longhorn Cattle

Postby Bullitt » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:00 pm

Muddy wrote:Beware! Regional sale barns can be different from other regional sale barns. Here, black hided cattle are king, next to solid reds and CharX. That said, the buyers hate shorthorns and Limousins but loves Simmentals. I guess I can't say anything about the eared breeds since they are very uncommon where I lives. F1 Braford cows cannot tolerate our harsh winters but the Longhorns can.


Thank you.

Yes, as I was saying, there is more than one way to do things in each region. It makes sense that Brahman-influenced cattle are popular in the hot South.

Texas Longhorns can tolerate hot or cold weather. Another advantage of Texas Longhorns.
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Re: Black Cross-Bred Texas Longhorn Cattle

Postby Caustic Burno » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:01 pm

They are derived from cattle from Africa that puts every LH a possible carrier of the gene.
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Re: Black Cross-Bred Texas Longhorn Cattle

Postby Muddy » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:03 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:They are derived from cattle from Africa that puts every LH a possible carrier of the gene.

Doesn't mean all Longhorns has it and in fact very few Longhorns has African horn gene. I think you are exaggerating about them have it.
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Re: Black Cross-Bred Texas Longhorn Cattle

Postby Bullitt » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:12 pm

bird dog wrote: What matters is your costs versus your return.


Exactly. Texas Longhorns are low-maintenance cattle and can maintain weight on lower quality feed than other breeds of cattle. That means you do not have to sell the calves for as much as say Angus cattle to make them profitable. Of course there are many other factors that go into making a profit with cattle.

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Re: Black Cross-Bred Texas Longhorn Cattle

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Re: Black Cross-Bred Texas Longhorn Cattle

Postby Muddy » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:20 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/an_sci/extension/animal/news/aug96/aug96-3.html

And what is your point?
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Re: Black Cross-Bred Texas Longhorn Cattle

Postby Caustic Burno » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:25 pm

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Caustic Burno wrote:https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/an_sci/extension/animal/news/aug96/aug96-3.html

And what is your point?



I am an idiot for even trying
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