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Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby Bullitt » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:20 am

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What is the fastest growing breed cross? I understand that a cross breed will grow faster.

If you could choose the breed of cow and breed of bull to have a calf that grew the fastest, what breeds would you choose for the cow and the bull?
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby ALACOWMAN » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:29 am

Brahman F1 Cow ,bred to Simmental or Charolais..
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby Caustic Burno » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:34 am

ALACOWMAN wrote:Brahman F1 Cow ,bred to Simmental or Charolais..


That cross will wean 20% heavier than any two way cross
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby kenny thomas » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:34 am

The cross that grows the fastest may not be the most profitable.
A dairy cow bred to a Charolais bull will produce a big calf but the cross described above will be much more profitable if your in the south especially.
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Postby ez14. » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:37 am

Read before that Jersey x limousine is supposed to be the fastest growing doesn't mean it's the best though!
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby sim.-ang.king » Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:03 pm

Sim-char bull bred to a Angus cow would have high growth and profitable.
Sim-char is probably the most under utilized cross of the euro breeds.
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby Silver » Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:15 pm

We weaned our biggest calves back in the day when our herd was straight Simmental and we switched to Blonde bulls. More than a few came off the cow at 800 lbs. Not sure how that compares to the other crosses mentioned.
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby Bullitt » Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:27 pm

ALACOWMAN wrote:Brahman F1 Cow ,bred to Simmental or Charolais..


With the Brahman F1, what do you cross with the Brahman?
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby Bullitt » Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:30 pm

kenny thomas wrote:The cross that grows the fastest may not be the most profitable.
A dairy cow bred to a Charolais bull will produce a big calf but the cross described above will be much more profitable if your in the south especially.


I understand that there are other factors for most profitable. I was just curious what some fast growing cross breeds would be.

If I had a bunch of dairy cows, I might put a Charolais bull on them.

I am in North Texas, so some Brahman in the mix seems to be acceptable here.
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby Bullitt » Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:32 pm

ez14. wrote:Read before that Jersey x limousine is supposed to be the fastest growing doesn't mean it's the best though!


I might try that also if I had Jersey cows. I was just asking about fastest growing. I understand other factors are considered for most profitable.
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby Bullitt » Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:34 pm

sim.-ang.king wrote:Sim-char bull bred to a Angus cow would have high growth and profitable.
Sim-char is probably the most under utilized cross of the euro breeds.


I would guess that would produce black calves, correct? At least if a black Simmental were in the mix, I think.
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby Bullitt » Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:40 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
ALACOWMAN wrote:Brahman F1 Cow ,bred to Simmental or Charolais..


That cross will wean 20% heavier than any two way cross


That is an impressive weight difference.

Are you currently using a cross like this? Do you use the Brahman X Hereford cows? Braford?
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby Bullitt » Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:18 pm

I found this YouTube video that says F1 Braford cows with calves sired by a Charolais bull.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAsYfAdnB5E
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby ALACOWMAN » Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:56 pm

Bullitt wrote:
ALACOWMAN wrote:Brahman F1 Cow ,bred to Simmental or Charolais..


With the Brahman F1, what do you cross with the Brahman?
preferably Hereford,, I raised some simbrah that could raise a little heavier calf, but they cost more to maintain..due to the Simmental bulls that were available back then...don't think there would be much difference now, in the size with the modern Bulls.
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby gcreekrch » Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:24 pm

Silver wrote:We weaned our biggest calves back in the day when our herd was straight Simmental and we switched to Blonde bulls. More than a few came off the cow at 800 lbs. Not sure how that compares to the other crosses mentioned.


How old were the calves and how heavy were their mommas?
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