Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby Silver » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:31 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
ALACOWMAN wrote:Image she looking a little rough now days..she's one of my oldies..


This is a super baldie girl that raises a calf that mashes the scales. She will get in your back pocket when she has a newborn.
Calved this morning and I stayed on the Mule to check it out.
In about two weeks she will act like come get this little leach off me.

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How big is "mash the scales" big at say 200 - 210 days of age?
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby Caustic Burno » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:51 pm

Silver wrote:
Caustic Burno wrote:
ALACOWMAN wrote:Image she looking a little rough now days..she's one of my oldies..


This is a super baldie girl that raises a calf that mashes the scales. She will get in your back pocket when she has a newborn.
Calved this morning and I stayed on the Mule to check it out.
In about two weeks she will act like come get this little leach off me.

Image


How big is "mash the scales" big at say 200 - 210 days of age?


I couldn’t give you a real life number as I don’t hold mine that long.
I will haul in June they will be heavy 5’s a few lt. 6’s.
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby ALACOWMAN » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:34 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
Silver wrote:
Caustic Burno wrote:
This is a super baldie girl that raises a calf that mashes the scales. She will get in your back pocket when she has a newborn.
Calved this morning and I stayed on the Mule to check it out.
In about two weeks she will act like come get this little leach off me.

Image


How big is "mash the scales" big at say 200 - 210 days of age?


I couldn’t give you a real life number as I don’t hold mine that long.
I will haul in June they will be heavy 5’s a few lt. 6’s.

Nice one for sure..
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby Silver » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:25 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
I couldn’t give you a real life number as I don’t hold mine that long.
I will haul in June they will be heavy 5’s a few lt. 6’s.


That sounds quite good at less than 200 days. Are you calving now?
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby Caustic Burno » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:48 pm

Silver wrote:
Caustic Burno wrote:
I couldn’t give you a real life number as I don’t hold mine that long.
I will haul in June they will be heavy 5’s a few lt. 6’s.


That sounds quite good at less than 200 days. Are you calving now?


Yep


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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby Silver » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:51 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
Silver wrote:
Caustic Burno wrote:
I couldn’t give you a real life number as I don’t hold mine that long.
I will haul in June they will be heavy 5’s a few lt. 6’s.


That sounds quite good at less than 200 days. Are you calving now?


Yep


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Out of curiosity, why do you ship so early? Does your grass play out?
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby Caustic Burno » Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:59 am

I supply the buyer with what they want

You loose money on the heavier calves to the order buyer is why.
You have to watch what they are wanting. I have seen 4wts bring as much or more than 7’s.in total dollars.
The 4 to 6 has always been the optimum here putting the most folding money in your billfold.
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby Silver » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:37 am

Caustic Burno wrote:I supply the buyer with what they want

You loose money on the heavier calves to the order buyer is why.
You have to watch what they are wanting. I have seen 4wts bring as much or more than 7’s.in total dollars.
The 4 to 6 has always been the optimum here putting the most folding money in your billfold.


That's interesting, and maybe helps to explain the proliferation of the smaller type cattle down south. Up here the heaviest calves garner the most total dollars. Must be a feed thing.
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby poorfarmer » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:26 am

Question for those of you utilizing cross breeding. Do any of you retain and finish your cattle? I was wondering how they grade out when selling to the packers.
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby Bullitt » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:40 pm

poorfarmer wrote:Question for those of you utilizing cross breeding. Do any of you retain and finish your cattle? I was wondering how they grade out when selling to the packers.


Each breed generally grades differently. So I am pretty sure each cross will grade differently.

The British breeds, such as Angus, Hereford, and Shorthorn, generally have the highest marbling in the meat. So crosses using British breeds would have more marbling. This may be another reason the Angus X Hereford (Black Baldy) is so popular.
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby ALACOWMAN » Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:19 pm

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poorfarmer wrote:Question for those of you utilizing cross breeding. Do any of you retain and finish your cattle? I was wondering how they grade out when selling to the packers.


Each breed generally grades differently. So I am pretty sure each cross will grade differently.

The British breeds, such as Angus, Hereford, and Shorthorn, generally have the highest marbling in the meat. So crosses using British breeds would have more marbling. This may be another reason the Angus X Hereford (Black Baldy) is so popular.

and faster to finish...you get the growth using a terminal type back on them,Not sure they'll grade as well but,more carcass...
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby True Grit Farms » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:45 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:I supply the buyer with what they want

You loose money on the heavier calves to the order buyer is why.
You have to watch what they are wanting. I have seen 4wts bring as much or more than 7’s.in total dollars.
The 4 to 6 has always been the optimum here putting the most folding money in your billfold.

We'll right now you need to hold your calves till their 700+ lb if you have feed and hay. A 700lb steer is only $0.15 behind a 500lb steer. Doing the same ole thing can cost you money in the cattle business.
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby Stocker Steve » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:52 pm

True Grit Farms wrote:We'll right now you need to hold your calves till their 700+ lb if you have feed and hay. A 700lb steer is only $0.15 behind a 500lb steer.


Futures market is a bit shaky, and I think a lot of folks want cattle that can finish late this spring in time for the grilling season. My spring steer calves grow wheels next week. Have been feeding 3 times a day during this -20 be nice... Only thing that makes them happy in this weather is new bedding. :nod:
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Re: Fastest Growing Breed Cross?

Postby True Grit Farms » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:57 pm

Stocker Steve wrote:
True Grit Farms wrote:We'll right now you need to hold your calves till their 700+ lb if you have feed and hay. A 700lb steer is only $0.15 behind a 500lb steer.


Futures market is a bit shaky, and I think a lot of folks want cattle that can finish late this spring in time for the grilling season. My spring steer calves grow wheels next week. Have been feeding 3 times a day during this -20 be nice...

Steve what's your cost per pound of gain?
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