A "Lady in waiting"

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Re: A "Lady in waiting"

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:18 am

120# is asking a lot of any heifer. That would have been a great loss. Hard for anyone to have happen.
WSF - as I said, I know there are lots of great ones, but when you see the "type" you don't like, it's hard to ever use him.
I paid good money to be "first of the block" with Milestone semen and I never regretted it. We had a lot of embryos sired by him (HPF flushed 3 of my cows numerous times).
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Re: A "Lady in waiting"

Postby WinterSpringsFarm » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:30 am

Yea I can understand that, seen a few like that myself.
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Re: A "Lady in waiting"

Postby jd720 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:00 pm

You mentioned 130 and 135# Broker calves. There are plenty of nice ones out there by him but I doubt I will ever use him on account of the high birth weights. Probably most of the calves are out of recips so they aren`t too worried about the cow. I think more of my girls than to intentionally do that to them now that we know about his birth weights and possible calving difficulty EPD`s show this though sometimes until we have calves on the ground we can be fooled I think Star Power and Broadway were good examples of that.
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Re: A "Lady in waiting"

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:47 pm

Yes, I saw Broker, I think in Louisville. I "manhandled" him to see how much was hair. He was the real deal. But, I cannot live with those weights. I used up 2 units I had on cows that had extremely low BW EPD's and normally had low BW calves. Some times (really???) they don't match up.
My cows did not have any trouble having the 130-35 # calves, and probably some of that weight was caused by my cows. I have some that really, really, like to grow their babies.
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Re: A "Lady in waiting"

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:13 am

One of my Ladies in Waiting calved about 8 days early and I did not "predict" it, so she was not in the barn at night. She spit out twin heifers, but one was DOA (still soft). Just before dawn and it was -6F, luckily no wind. Phil scooped up the standing Popsicle and I herded the cow & we put them in a pen in the barn. Calf went right to sucking.
This is the 3rd set of twins (one set was on a heifer sold) this breeding "season".
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Re: A "Lady in waiting"

Postby Bright Raven » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:18 am

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:One of my Ladies in Waiting calved about 8 days early and I did not "predict" it, so she was not in the barn at night. She spit out twin heifers, but one was DOA (still soft). Just before dawn and it was -6F, luckily no wind. Phil scooped up the standing Popsicle and I herded the cow & we put them in a pen in the barn. Calf went right to sucking.
This is the 3rd set of twins (one set was on a heifer sold) this breeding "season".


Not a good time to have a calf. Any guess on the number of twins?
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Re: A "Lady in waiting"

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:37 am

Never a good "time" if they are outside in January!!!
I don't understand your question. I generally have 1-3 (4 max) per year. They can quit coming anytime now! I have 24 due from 1-20 to 3-5. We already calved out 7 heifers. We sold ? at least 6 heifers that were due 1-1 to 1-6.
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Re: A "Lady in waiting"

Postby Bright Raven » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:43 am

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:Never a good "time" if they are outside in January!!!
I don't understand your question. I generally have 1-3 (4 max) per year. They can quit coming anytime now! I have 24 due from 1-20 to 3-5. We already calved out 7 heifers. We sold ? at least 6 heifers that were due 1-1 to 1-6.


That seems like a high frequency of twins. I have often wondered if any management methods can increase the frequency of twining. Such as using some of the synchronization protocols.
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Re: A "Lady in waiting"

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:19 am

I think it is more a matter of fertility and nutrition. I have never looked back and checked if they had received Lut or CIDR for breeding.
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Re: A "Lady in waiting"

Postby jd720 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:05 pm

Jeanne this cow had Bandwagon twins last year. A bull and a heifer 10 days early bull was alive heifer dead luckily it wasn`t in this bad weather. She`s bred back to Bandwagon again and big as a barrel now and not due for 3 weeks I`m hoping it`s not twins again. I`m thinking about breeding her to classified this year. We never had twins till we went to Simmentals and had at least one set every year since. We had a Fat Butt heifer had twin Dream Catcher bulls her first time and raised both of them like an old pro then bred back first heat A.I. they are wonderful mothers in my opinion.
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Re: A "Lady in waiting"

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:36 pm

Yes, I have to admit Simmental's do tend to have a higher percentage of twins than most breeds. Fertile myrtles!!! Most embryologists love them!
Nice looking cow and yes, she is big. What is her pedigree?
This a picture of Dove, a Bandwagon daughter.
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Re: A "Lady in waiting"

Postby jd720 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:01 pm

She`s a STF Fixation out of the Kenco donor JM Lady Remington 5 s. I really like the Bandwagon calves the calf she had last year is being shown as a steer and doing pretty good. I kept a Bandwagon x Built Right heifer and hope we get a heifer out of the Fixation cow this time.
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Re: A "Lady in waiting"

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:41 am

My Lady in Waiting calved 1 day late (286) with this flashie heifer calf.
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This is what happens when you breed a blazed face bull to a chromed up cow. A lot more white than I care to have, but she is a cutie!
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Her white bellie goes down her rear legs. Her name is Flashie (this is a "F" year)
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Re: A "Lady in waiting"

Postby Bright Raven » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:02 pm

Beautiful. If you had bred that cow to HPF Optimizer. Watch out!

I like the Dam's head. Nice place for a newborn.
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Re: A "Lady in waiting"

Postby lithuanian farmer » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:28 pm

Very lovely girl! I always like calves with more white . :)
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