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Re: CAIP Bred Heifers

Postby Gators Rule » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:37 pm

BFE wrote:
Gators Rule wrote:Sooooo to all the CRP naysayers, you make it sound like farmers are getting rich with CRP, or at least making a living off CRP.

True Grit, in your home state of Georgia, do you realize of the 7300 total acres on CRP contracts, 58% are Contracts encompassing only 11-50 acres? Personally, I don’t own any crop land, much less any CRP land.

https://www.fsa.usda.gov/Assets/USDA-FS ... 202017.pdf




BFE, not sure where’s the difference. Here’s what I pulled my data from.
https://www.fsa.usda.gov/Assets/USDA-FS ... 202017.pdf
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Re: CAIP Bred Heifers

Postby Bright Raven » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:44 pm

Gators Rule wrote:
BFE wrote:
Gators Rule wrote:Sooooo to all the CRP naysayers, you make it sound like farmers are getting rich with CRP, or at least making a living off CRP.

True Grit, in your home state of Georgia, do you realize of the 7300 total acres on CRP contracts, 58% are Contracts encompassing only 11-50 acres? Personally, I don’t own any crop land, much less any CRP land.

https://www.fsa.usda.gov/Assets/USDA-FS ... 202017.pdf




BFE, not sure where’s the difference. Here’s what I pulled my data from.
https://www.fsa.usda.gov/Assets/USDA-FS ... 202017.pdf


BFE is providing acres. Gator is providing number of contracts. The right column in the Gator link is a summation of 347, 1045, 4201, and 1639 for a total of 7,232 contracts in the state of Georgia.

For acres, refer to the BFE Link. Georgia - General 86,560 acres. Continuous 137,432 acres.
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Re: CAIP Bred Heifers

Postby True Grit Farms » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:53 pm

Gators Rule wrote:
BFE wrote:
Gators Rule wrote:Sooooo to all the CRP naysayers, you make it sound like farmers are getting rich with CRP, or at least making a living off CRP.

True Grit, in your home state of Georgia, do you realize of the 7300 total acres on CRP contracts, 58% are Contracts encompassing only 11-50 acres? Personally, I don’t own any crop land, much less any CRP land.

https://www.fsa.usda.gov/Assets/USDA-FS ... 202017.pdf




BFE, not sure where’s the difference. Here’s what I pulled my data from.
https://www.fsa.usda.gov/Assets/USDA-FS ... 202017.pdf


https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/wps/portal/nr ... /programs/
There's so much available if you want it, it makes me sick. We need the money here in middle Georgia or this place would be a ghost town. It's very sad how dependent we are to the government. Mr. Hart has just received his EQUIP check, there's folks at his place pouring concrete pads for water troughs, a new deep well and a trencher laying pipe. He's a big time hypocrite.
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Re: CAIP Bred Heifers

Postby Bright Raven » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:11 pm

True Grit Farms wrote:
https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/wps/portal/nr ... /programs/
There's so much available if you want it, it makes me sick. We need the money here in middle Georgia or this place would be a ghost town. It's very sad how dependent we are to the government. Mr. Hart has just received his EQUIP check, there's folks at his place pouring concrete pads for water troughs, a new deep well and a trencher laying pipe. He's a big time hypocrite.


Vince, government programs to support agriculture originated after the Great Depression. Both parties have a history of authoring legislation to create these programs. This does not fit your "liberal" label mentality. In fact, conservatives have always seen themselves as pro-agriculture which includes all these programs you have listed here and in the other posts.

It would be financially catastrophic to end it abruptly. Farm land would drop to an 80 year low. For example, CRP is recognized as an underpinning for farm property values. If Georgia is like Kentucky, most farms are marginally profitable without the government programs.
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Re: CAIP Bred Heifers

Postby True Grit Farms » Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:07 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
True Grit Farms wrote:
https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/wps/portal/nr ... /programs/
There's so much available if you want it, it makes me sick. We need the money here in middle Georgia or this place would be a ghost town. It's very sad how dependent we are to the government. Mr. Hart has just received his EQUIP check, there's folks at his place pouring concrete pads for water troughs, a new deep well and a trencher laying pipe. He's a big time hypocrite.


Vince, government programs to support agriculture originated after the Great Depression. Both parties have a history of authoring legislation to create these programs. This does not fit your "liberal" label mentality. In fact, conservatives have always seen themselves as pro-agriculture which includes all these programs you have listed here and in the other posts.

It would be financially catastrophic to end it abruptly. Farm land would drop to an 80 year low. For example, CRP is recognized as an underpinning for farm property values. If Georgia is like Kentucky, most farms are marginally profitable without the government programs.


Everyone depends on the government around here to pay the bills. All I've ever wanted is for the government to get the heck out of the way, I can take care of myself and pay my own bills. The USDA dictates what the policies and rules farmers and fishermen have to live by. One group benefits from government assistance, the other struggles with government intervention.
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