Looking for a good Wagyu bull

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Re: Looking for a good Wagyu bull

Postby NonTypicalCPA » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:35 pm

What do you think of this guy? He's the sire of the young bull I'm looking at.

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Re: Looking for a good Wagyu bull

Postby NonTypicalCPA » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:37 pm

And here is the young bull.

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Re: Looking for a good Wagyu bull

Postby Lazy M » Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:21 pm

NonTypicalCPA wrote:And here is the young bull.

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Looks like a wagyu..
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Re: Looking for a good Wagyu bull

Postby Son of Butch » Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:53 pm

NonTypicalCPA wrote:What do you think of this guy?
He's the sire of the young bull I'm looking at.
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I would classify him as an example of a group B Tajima bloodline, strong in the front end and narrow in the back.
You can pm me his pedigree or sire and maternal grand sire names if you wish, maybe I can tell you more or maybe
I can't.
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Re: Looking for a good Wagyu bull

Postby Fire Sweep Ranch » Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:58 pm

Are the feet that bad on Wagyu???
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Re: Looking for a good Wagyu bull

Postby Son of Butch » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:15 pm

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Re: Looking for a good Wagyu bull

Postby LLBUX » Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:30 am

Kaye lives in Kentucky and has many contacts with Wagyu breeders around the country.

She specifically mentioned a place called Golden Age Farm for top genetics and quality.
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Re: Looking for a good Wagyu bull

Postby NonTypicalCPA » Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:53 am

I was wondering on the feet of the young bull. Seems pretty long in the toe and flat footed. Any concerns? Normal?
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Re: Looking for a good Wagyu bull

Postby Son of Butch » Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:42 am

IF I were selling him, I would've had a good hoof trimmer clean up his front feet and quick once over on the rear before showing him to you. Rear feet shallow heel, but strong pasterns. I don't like that his front feet toe out a bit.
Price would influence the degree of faults I'd be willing to accept. He's in that gangley awkward 'teenage' phase.
Even so, he doesn't have the phenotype to be high priced. Wagyu are notorious for small, but functional testicles.
Semen test before writing a check.

Feet and legs have the low heritabilty of .17 (source holstein assoc of usa)
His foot appears tight (not spread toe) but a bit too long, which could be from soft ground and often from manure pack
or soft bedding. Rear feet more important for mobility than front, but the one picture shows his front toes are too
long. He is functional, but not the type to cover a large herd or a lot of ground.
Light rear muscling and high marbling seem to go hand in hand, it's unfortunate, but that's what Wagyu are.


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From what you've said before, he'll be fine for your purpose and you should have no big concerns.
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Re: Looking for a good Wagyu bull

Postby Jake » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:12 pm

Good friend of mine is the herdsman for this outfit. They maybe able to help as well

https://www.gvwagyu.com/
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Re: Looking for a good Wagyu bull

Postby NonTypicalCPA » Wed May 16, 2018 10:48 am

We're looking at a 14 month old out of this bull. It looks good that he will be coming to work on our two farms!


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Re: Looking for a good Wagyu bull

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Thu May 17, 2018 8:43 am

SOB - I am impressed with your knowledge of Wagyu cattle.
I know the "name" Wagyu will bring more money for your beef, but will it offset the "lack" of muscling you will get?
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Re: Looking for a good Wagyu bull

Postby callmefence » Thu May 17, 2018 2:37 pm

Isn't waygu supposed to make good heifer bulls as a breed. Like Jersey, Corriente,longhorn....if true this seems to me to be a good way to incorporate one into a existing operation
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Re: Looking for a good Wagyu bull

Postby NonTypicalCPA » Thu May 17, 2018 4:46 pm

The common feeling of most of the Wagyu breeders we’ve been in contact with on our search is that they feel the future of beef in the US is a 50/50 cross with a Wagyu. Biased of course, but interesting. We’re looking forward to giving it a go.
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Re: Looking for a good Wagyu bull

Postby Son of Butch » Mon May 21, 2018 9:31 pm

NonTypicalCPA wrote:We're looking at a 14 month old out of this bull. It looks good that he will be coming to work on our two farms!


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Hirashigetayasu is a group C wagyu sire used to increase frame, growth and milk in full blood wagyu cows.
Highly recommended for use on full blood Tajima cows.

When mated to group B Tajima bloodline 80% of his steers graded A5 the highest grade in Japan.
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