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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby ALACOWMAN » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:59 pm

Muddy wrote:I like how the childish haters are getting butt hurt and telling us that we are bullshytting, yet they never raised a Longhorn or worked with.
actually I don't hate Longhorns . .. Probably seen, been around more longhorn than you have.. Even owned one in a roping club.. Got friends that have em and raise calves,, and some bred to limm Bulls... They have their place..""not on mine"" but they have one...
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby ALACOWMAN » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:06 pm

farmguy wrote:True Grit Farms wrote:
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"I like how the childish haters are getting butt hurt and telling us that we are bullshytting, yet they never raised a Longhorn or worked with.

Muddy do you really believe a Homozygous black bull can knock the chrome off a Longhorn calf 100% of the time? And than add to the BS about no horns either on a ny of them. I always thought that you were smarter than that Muddy.

Very few longhorns carried African horn gene but it's usually from the ones with Watusi influence and it is possible for longhorns have solid black calves. Who knows the next calf crop, he could have few skunktails or none. The Longhorns didn't always throw a chromed up calf every time."

We all know that the polled trait is dominant. if these were homozygous bulls wouldn't all calves be polled? What is this African horn gene thing? I am not taking sides just never heard of African horn and does it change the horn trait? Here in Minnesota Watusi cattle are unheard of. thanks farmguy




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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby True Grit Farms » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:32 pm

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farmguy wrote:True Grit Farms wrote:
Muddy wrote:
"I like how the childish haters are getting butt hurt and telling us that we are bullshytting, yet they never raised a Longhorn or worked with.

Muddy do you really believe a Homozygous black bull can knock the chrome off a Longhorn calf 100% of the time? And than add to the BS about no horns either on a ny of them. I always thought that you were smarter than that Muddy.

Very few longhorns carried African horn gene but it's usually from the ones with Watusi influence and it is possible for longhorns have solid black calves. Who knows the next calf crop, he could have few skunktails or none. The Longhorns didn't always throw a chromed up calf every time."

We all know that the polled trait is dominant. if these were homozygous bulls wouldn't all calves be polled? What is this African horn gene thing? I am not taking sides just never heard of African horn and does it change the horn trait? Here in Minnesota Watusi cattle are unheard of. thanks farmguy


African horn gene, will trump a homo polled. Not every time, but pretty often.

Have you seen what a calf looks like from a Homozygous black bull and Charolais cow? I don't know longhorn, but I have Homozygous black Simmental and Angus cows and bulls. And some of the calves will have white on them. White is a hard gene to predict or pervent, a 100% of the time.
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby Muddy » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:41 pm

African horn gene is different gene from the normal horn gene, it's usually found in Indicus types and Sanga types. Watusi is an African Sanga type with huge thick horns. Watusi is introduced to the Longhorn's genepool to just making their horns bigger, that's how the Longhorns got African horn gene from. Homozygous polled bulls often doesn't knock the horns off when African horn gene is involved. That said not all Longhorns carrying the African horn gene. Caustic Burno and True Grits are exaggerating about the African horn gene in the longhorns.
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby True Grit Farms » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:05 pm

Muddy wrote:African horn gene is different gene from the normal horn gene, it's usually found in Indicus types and Sanga types. Watusi is an African Sanga type with huge thick horns. Watusi is introduced to the Longhorn's genepool to just making their horns bigger, that's how the Longhorns got African horn gene from. Homozygous polled bulls often doesn't knock the horns off when African horn gene is involved. That said not all Longhorns carrying the African horn gene. Caustic Burno and True Grits are exaggerating about the African horn gene in the longhorns.

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Muddy wrote:I like how the childish haters are getting butt hurt and telling us that we are bullshytting, yet they never raised a Longhorn or worked with.

Muddy do you really believe a Homozygous black bull can knock the chrome off a Longhorn calf 100% of the time? And than add to the BS about no horns either on any of them. I always thought that you were smarter than that Muddy.[/quote]

You are dense Muddy, it ain't gonna happen 100% of the time. And you can't even answer the question cause you won't admit it, and you won't lie. From the few Wagyu cattle that I've seen I'd be trying to push a black longhorn off as them. I think the Longhorn pimps are more hard core than the Brahman pimps, I know they whine more.
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby Muddy » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:54 pm

I already answered your question. It is possible for a guy to get 100% black polled calf crop from longhorn cows and a black polled bull. It's you that whines more than a puppy.
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby True Grit Farms » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:40 pm

Muddy wrote:I already answered your question. It is possible for a guy to get 100% black polled calf crop from longhorn cows and a black polled bull. It's you that whines more than a puppy.

Anything is possible, some things just don't happen, like winning the lottery.
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby Ky hills » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:13 pm

Have no first hand knowledge of longhorns, or the color patterns of their calves. A neighbor has told me before that someone has used one of his Angus bulls on their longhorn calves for several years. He says that MOST of the calves are black and polled, only a few would have white, or horns.
Maybe next year I can report what color calf our one longhorn heifer has, but that won't be enough for a test, unless we bring in some more. ;-)
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby gcreekrch » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:29 pm

I am just glad they are all gone from this ranch.

They are fun to rope though.....
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby ALACOWMAN » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:50 pm

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They are fun to rope though.....

Can run like the wind.. Back before we had em, we had a barrel of strap on horns...for the muleys. https://www.nrsworld.com/nrs/nrs-strap- ... horns-4471
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby Muddy » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:34 pm

gcreekrch wrote:I am just glad they are all gone from this ranch.

They are fun to rope though.....

Any reason why you continue to posting here when you don't like Longhorns?
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby Muddy » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:36 pm

True Grit Farms wrote:
Muddy wrote:I already answered your question. It is possible for a guy to get 100% black polled calf crop from longhorn cows and a black polled bull. It's you that whines more than a puppy.

Anything is possible, some things just don't happen, like winning the lottery.

Well I guess it did happened. That would be my last time to reply to any of your posts.
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby gcreekrch » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:21 am

Muddy wrote:
gcreekrch wrote:I am just glad they are all gone from this ranch.

They are fun to rope though.....

Any reason why you continue to posting here when you don't like Longhorns?


Opinions are like azz holes,, we all have them.

Just trying to save some other start up cattlemen the time and effort of wasting money.
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:33 am

Let's play nice. Breeds are a touchy subject. We are all a bit bias - well probably LOTS bias.
I personally have no experience with them. My most exposure to them is at Keystone Int'l Livestock Show (KILE) in Harrisburg, PA. They have their "best' on display and they show them.
They are a joke in the barn. They have more horn then they have hide & bone, and they have even less meat. Is there still a good market for the horns? I guess you can look forward to culling so you can kill them & sell the horn.
Obviously, they have a place in our business in certain locations (NY is NOT one of them) because they have been around forever.
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby plumber_greg » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:49 am

I just can't get around the "fooling" the buyers. Why does someone raising longhorns want their buyers to think their cattle are something they are not? jmho gs
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