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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby True Grit Farms » Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:59 pm

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All these were trader calves bought in November - December and all gained over 2.5 lbs a day besides the hatched azz one. We trimmed her up and she looked good to us. My son gave $1.07 @ 205 lbs for her, we wormed twice and gave her 2 rounds of shots. But the buyers knew exactly what they were buying. Dang lipstick and haircut didn't work again.
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby Bigfoot » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:02 pm

True Grit Farms wrote:Image

All these were trader calves bought in November - December and all gained over 2.5 lbs a day besides the hatched azz one. We trimmed her up and she looked good to us. My son gave $1.07 @ 205 lbs for her, we wormed twice and gave her 2 rounds of shots. But the buyers knew exactly what they were buying. Dang lipstick and haircut didn't work again.
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Your exactly right. I remember as a small child my dad telling me to remember the best cattle bring the best money.
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby RanchMan90 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:49 pm

True Grit Farms wrote:Image

All these were trader calves bought in November - December and all gained over 2.5 lbs a day besides the hatched azz one. We trimmed her up and she looked good to us. My son gave $1.07 @ 205 lbs for her, we wormed twice and gave her 2 rounds of shots. But the buyers knew exactly what they were buying. Dang lipstick and haircut didn't work again.
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Fair enough. Not to pry, but did they make a ROI?
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby True Grit Farms » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:39 pm

Wish I'd of bought a 100 head in November. It's really easy to make money on feeders when the market rises. I feel the feeder market is going to start retreating in the spring. So I'm buying a few heifers, and going to clean them up and sell them bred in the fall and heavy bred in the spring.
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby Big Cheese » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:42 am

What is the market looking like for the future? I'm never good at predicting lol and we are about to have a good few calves to sell over the next month or two.
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby True Grit Farms » Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:00 am

Big Cheese wrote:What is the market looking like for the future? I'm never good at predicting lol and we are about to have a good few calves to sell over the next month or two.


Your guess is better than mine. But all those heifers and expanding that folks did during the good times should start to show up in the market this fall. The more supply the lower the price, that's just the way it works in free enterprise.
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby WalnutCrest » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:20 am

Finally read this whole mammoth thread. It took me three days of breaks!

It seems to me that one huge reason Big Cheese gets better prices for his LH x valves is because an older guy who was mentoring him was doing that for the last 40 years (iirc; that was very early in this thread) and the buyers are used to seeing them and know what to expect.

Discounts come when buyers smell risk ... when there is some uncertainty. A 40 year track record sure eliminates quite a bit of uncertainty!

I love the colorful cattle...but not nearly as much as those light fawn colored calves!

Excellent stuff here.
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby Muddy » Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:58 am

I've seen the pics of Big Cheese's mentor's LH x Char cross calves and you won't know they are out of longhorn cows.

Last fall I saw a group of Hereford X LH cross steers ran thru the ring. They were very thick and definitely not hatchet azzed but all have lineback so they got docked 5 cents less than the typical feeder price.

I've also visited a breeder that raises both Longhorns and Belted Galloways. He has xbred calves and they were stout & fleshy tho some calves did have slender legs but they ain't boney like PB longhorn calves. All xbred calves have a belt.
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby Big Cheese » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:47 pm

I don't technically get better money then the full beef calves. Some of our calves do but most don't but we can run 3 longhorns to two full beefs and sometimes 4 to 2. They eat less and have virtually no vet bill. We get docked on some of our cross calves for sure. The whole point was getting that Longhorn Cross heifer and breeding it back to a Charolais. That is when we make just as much as a full beef but still get to run 3 to 2. That is what we are in the process of doing and we are getting really to letting our first Charolais Longhorn (or Charhorn as we call them) heifer out with a bull. It is a long process but it seems to be worth the weight so far. The 3/4 breed calves dont show hardly any longhorn in them.

I may go back and read this thread again lol its been around for a long time.
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby Farm Fence Solutions » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:59 pm

I like your plan Big Cheese. We started running an Angus bull on our Longhorn cows about 7 years ago. We've saved several of those heifer calves and put an Angus bull back on them. Those end up some of our best calves with the lowest inputs. We've been selling to the same buyer for several years, and he likes them.
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby TexasBred » Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:14 pm

Farm Fence Solutions wrote:I like your plan Big Cheese. We started running an Angus bull on our Longhorn cows about 7 years ago. We've saved several of those heifer calves and put an Angus bull back on them. Those end up some of our best calves with the lowest inputs. We've been selling to the same buyer for several years, and he likes them.

When the longhorn has been diluted that much what do they still bring to the table vs just going angus?
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby Big Cheese » Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:38 pm

TexasBred wrote:
Farm Fence Solutions wrote:I like your plan Big Cheese. We started running an Angus bull on our Longhorn cows about 7 years ago. We've saved several of those heifer calves and put an Angus bull back on them. Those end up some of our best calves with the lowest inputs. We've been selling to the same buyer for several years, and he likes them.

When the longhorn has been diluted that much what do they still bring to the table vs just going angus?


They still have the toughness of the Longhorn. They still retain most of the Longhorn traits like no calving problems but Longhorn doesnt show up as much. They will be more beefier and bring more money.
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby Farm Fence Solutions » Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:45 pm

As Big Cheese said, virtually zero calving issues. Calves are beefy, and the cows are still considerably cheaper to maintain. It's too early in my experiment to tell, but I'm hoping for some increase in longevity in the crossbred cows. We have a couple of Longhorns well into their 20's with good calves on them right now, and it'd be great to get that kind of mileage out of the crosses. Just think of all the heifers I wouldn't have to keep!
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby Stocker Steve » Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:03 pm

Big Cheese wrote:They still have the toughness of the Longhorn. They still retain most of the Longhorn traits like no calving problems but Longhorn doesnt show up as much. They will be more beefier and bring more money.


Don't suppose you have seen and LH x Jersey cows in action?
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Re: Longhorn Cross

Postby HDRider » Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:57 am

TexasBred wrote:
Farm Fence Solutions wrote:I like your plan Big Cheese. We started running an Angus bull on our Longhorn cows about 7 years ago. We've saved several of those heifer calves and put an Angus bull back on them. Those end up some of our best calves with the lowest inputs. We've been selling to the same buyer for several years, and he likes them.

When the longhorn has been diluted that much what do they still bring to the table vs just going angus?

My brother started this in 14 because beef cows were so expensive then, and LHs were cheap. He has built up a pretty good herd in that time. Those longhorns he brought in are still throwing calves and he is breeding their progeny now.


Along the lines you say, I'v suggested he now sell everything and start off with a good base herd of more conventional beef cattle. He isn't listening to me this time. He has turned into a fan of them LHs for the reasons some have stated here.
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