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Re: Gun Talk

Postby TexasBred » Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:23 pm

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wbvs58 wrote:I think if tighter gun laws were to be brought into the US it would be very messy and unlikely to have any effect on shootings, crime and terrorism. When Australia brought in our gun legislation there was not the widespread gun ownership that occurs in the US, handguns and automatic weapons were more difficult to own even before the new legislation. It mostly tidied up the old hand me down guns that were lying in the bottom of cupboards and never saw the light of day, people took the opportunity of the amnesty to hand them in. Those of us that wanted to keep our guns had to go through the licence process and meet the requirements of gun storage.

I think with your widespread gun ownership and the unlimited types of firearms it would take many decades of tighter control to bring the availability of firearms down where it would make any significant impact on these shootings.

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Australia doesn't have open borders or NAFTA.


Only borders they have is the ocean. Grit do you really go to dinner with three (3) concealed weapons?? I can't even imagine being that insecure.
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Re: Gun Talk

Postby Calhoun103 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:25 pm

I don’t normally post on this forum but I want to make a quick point or two. First, CCW has stopped a lot of crimes including mass shootings and school shootings. This is documented even within mainstream media, but reports were very brief and then buried deep - never to be mention again. Another factor is the use of weapons to stop a crime/assault but shots are not fired. Where do you think these numbers are going to be captured??? Let’s say you are involved in such a situation and you call the police afterward, do you really think they keep records/statistics of crimes NOT committed??? (Because the fact you were armed thwarted it.). Of course they don’t.
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Re: Gun Talk

Postby TexasBred » Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:26 pm

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True Grit Farms wrote:
wbvs58 wrote:I think if tighter gun laws were to be brought into the US it would be very messy and unlikely to have any effect on shootings, crime and terrorism. When Australia brought in our gun legislation there was not the widespread gun ownership that occurs in the US, handguns and automatic weapons were more difficult to own even before the new legislation. It mostly tidied up the old hand me down guns that were lying in the bottom of cupboards and never saw the light of day, people took the opportunity of the amnesty to hand them in. Those of us that wanted to keep our guns had to go through the licence process and meet the requirements of gun storage.

I think with your widespread gun ownership and the unlimited types of firearms it would take many decades of tighter control to bring the availability of firearms down where it would make any significant impact on these shootings.

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Australia doesn't have open borders or NAFTA.


What the he!! Does NAFTA have to do with anything?

Avocados look like hand grenades. Especially on a truck from Mexico. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Gun Talk

Postby Ryder » Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:42 pm

Calhoun103 wrote:I don’t normally post on this forum but I want to make a quick point or two. First, CCW has stopped a lot of crimes including mass shootings and school shootings. This is documented even within mainstream media, but reports were very brief and then buried deep - never to be mention again. Another factor is the use of weapons to stop a crime/assault but shots are not fired. Where do you think these numbers are going to be captured??? Let’s say you are involved in such a situation and you call the police afterward, do you really think they keep records/statistics of crimes NOT committed??? (Because the fact you were armed thwarted it.). Of course they don’t.

Good post Calhoun. :clap:
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Re: Gun Talk

Postby True Grit Farms » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:09 pm

TexasBred wrote:
True Grit Farms wrote:
wbvs58 wrote:I think if tighter gun laws were to be brought into the US it would be very messy and unlikely to have any effect on shootings, crime and terrorism. When Australia brought in our gun legislation there was not the widespread gun ownership that occurs in the US, handguns and automatic weapons were more difficult to own even before the new legislation. It mostly tidied up the old hand me down guns that were lying in the bottom of cupboards and never saw the light of day, people took the opportunity of the amnesty to hand them in. Those of us that wanted to keep our guns had to go through the licence process and meet the requirements of gun storage.

I think with your widespread gun ownership and the unlimited types of firearms it would take many decades of tighter control to bring the availability of firearms down where it would make any significant impact on these shootings.

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Australia doesn't have open borders or NAFTA.


Only borders they have is the ocean. Grit do you really go to dinner with three (3) concealed weapons?? I can't even imagine being that insecure.


TB, if it's cool enough to wear an outer garment I always carry 2 pistols. I carry a pocket pistol everywhere 24/7, my thinking with that is something is better than nothing. But I prefer my Glock 23, IMO it's the best CC pistol ever made, not to big, not to small and plenty of fire power. I hate looking like a bum and not having my shirt tucked in when I go in public, so that kind of limits my CC options in warm weather.
I honestly don't feel insecure at all, I feel very content when I CC. I do feel a little insecure when I see someone walking around with a gun in public places. But otherwise guns are good, and bad guys are bad.
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Re: Gun Talk

Postby Craig Miller » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:12 pm

Bestoutwest wrote:Have any of you seen any campaigns with teachers holding books that say “I’m already armed?” That is the extent of their willing to do anything, which as a parent scares the heck out of me.


I've seen them say "You want to arm me but I can't even control my room thermostat" and "You want to pay for arms training but we can't afford paper" and lots of other things. Google armed teacher memes and you see a lot of feedback from teachers types.
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Re: Gun Talk

Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:23 pm

True Grit Farms wrote:
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What the he!! Does NAFTA have to do with anything?

Crime.
I guess lots of folks not near the border don't understand all the intricacies of NAFTA upsides and downsides.
Drop the following line into Google and let us know what you see..

Smuggling via NAFTA


TT, is smarter than that I hope, he's just busting my chops.


According to the stats SOB produced earlier Ina this thread the homocide rate has declined since the passage of NAFTA so you and the Grey one need a new scapegoat.
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Re: Gun Talk

Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:24 pm

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Bestoutwest wrote:Have any of you seen any campaigns with teachers holding books that say “I’m already armed?” That is the extent of their willing to do anything, which as a parent scares the heck out of me.


I've seen them say "You want to arm me but I can't even control my room thermostat" and "You want to pay for arms training but we can't afford paper" and lots of other things. Google armed teacher memes and you see a lot of feedback from teachers types.


Are teacher and "teacher types" one in the same?
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Re: Gun Talk

Postby Craig Miller » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:36 pm

TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
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Bestoutwest wrote:Have any of you seen any campaigns with teachers holding books that say “I’m already armed?” That is the extent of their willing to do anything, which as a parent scares the heck out of me.


I've seen them say "You want to arm me but I can't even control my room thermostat" and "You want to pay for arms training but we can't afford paper" and lots of other things. Google armed teacher memes and you see a lot of feedback from teachers types.


Are teacher and "teacher types" one in the same?


No there's teachers and then there's teacher types. You can tell the difference cause ones teachers and the other ain't. They just like to tell other people what to think. Also known as "main stream media" or "fake news"
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Re: Gun Talk

Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:41 pm

Craig Miller wrote:
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
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I've seen them say "You want to arm me but I can't even control my room thermostat" and "You want to pay for arms training but we can't afford paper" and lots of other things. Google armed teacher memes and you see a lot of feedback from teachers types.


Are teacher and "teacher types" one in the same?


No there's teachers and then there's teacher types. You can tell the difference cause ones teachers and the other ain't. They just like to tell other people what to think. Also known as "main stream media" or "fake news"


Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Teacher if I agree with their message and "teacher type" if it challenges my world view. Got it.
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Re: Gun Talk

Postby greybeard » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:54 pm

TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
True Grit Farms wrote:
greybeard wrote:Crime.
I guess lots of folks not near the border don't understand all the intricacies of NAFTA upsides and downsides.
Drop the following line into Google and let us know what you see..

Smuggling via NAFTA


TT, is smarter than that I hope, he's just busting my chops.


According to the stats SOB produced earlier Ina this thread the homocide rate has declined since the passage of NAFTA so you and the Grey one need a new scapegoat.

I don't remember mentioning homicide rates in reference to NAFTA.
(and I'm not sure what 'homocide' is anyway..is that a Kentucky term?)
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Re: Gun Talk

Postby M-5 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:01 pm

greybeard wrote:
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
True Grit Farms wrote:
TT, is smarter than that I hope, he's just busting my chops.


According to the stats SOB produced earlier Ina this thread the homocide rate has declined since the passage of NAFTA so you and the Grey one need a new scapegoat.

I don't remember mentioning homicide rates in reference to NAFTA.
(and I'm not sure what 'homocide' is anyway..is that a Kentucky term?)

Must be something the men do in a mine shaft
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Re: Gun Talk

Postby Craig Miller » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:54 pm

TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
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Are teacher and "teacher types" one in the same?


No there's teachers and then there's teacher types. You can tell the difference cause ones teachers and the other ain't. They just like to tell other people what to think. Also known as "main stream media" or "fake news"



Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Teacher if I agree with their message and "teacher type" if it challenges my world view. Got it.


It's kinda like on here where there's cattleman and cattleman types. The cattleman give advice when they can and the cattleman type just shoot off one liners
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Re: Gun Talk

Postby Bestoutwest » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:07 pm

TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
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Bestoutwest wrote:Have any of you seen any campaigns with teachers holding books that say “I’m already armed?” That is the extent of their willing to do anything, which as a parent scares the heck out of me.


I've seen them say "You want to arm me but I can't even control my room thermostat" and "You want to pay for arms training but we can't afford paper" and lots of other things. Google armed teacher memes and you see a lot of feedback from teachers types.


Are teacher and "teacher types" one in the same?

No, teachers have information to pass down with techniques to maximize student potential. Teacher types just offer opinions with no real world application, nor an fact based research to back up opinions.
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Re: Gun Talk

Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:36 pm

Craig Miller wrote:
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
Craig Miller wrote:
No there's teachers and then there's teacher types. You can tell the difference cause ones teachers and the other ain't. They just like to tell other people what to think. Also known as "main stream media" or "fake news"



Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Teacher if I agree with their message and "teacher type" if it challenges my world view. Got it.


It's kinda like on here where there's cattleman and cattleman types. The cattleman give advice when they can and the cattleman type just shoot off one liners


What do the oil types do?
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