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Re: Kentucky - Century Aluminum

Postby hurleyjd » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:52 am

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TexasBred wrote:Socialism ain't what it's made out to be comrade.


What does this even mean, in relation to my post?



government controls all means of production and distribution of goods. ... Socialism is also characterized by the absence of private property. The idea is that if everyone works, everyone will reap the same benefits and prosper equally.


Fascism, Socialism. Communism and Capitalism. Which one when comparing them are we closet too. Is it a little bit of all of them. Can Capitalism fail has nearly several times and was recused. What would we have without any government. Would it be anarchy what is anarchy is it we do as the ones that are strongest in society bullies the less fortunate in to submission and then what would this government be called. I forgot one and that is feudalism. That is where the rich ones own every thing and we become serfs and do not own anything.
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Re: Kentucky - Century Aluminum

Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:42 pm

hurleyjd wrote:
TexasBred wrote:
Supa Dexta wrote:
What does this even mean, in relation to my post?



government controls all means of production and distribution of goods. ... Socialism is also characterized by the absence of private property. The idea is that if everyone works, everyone will reap the same benefits and prosper equally.


Fascism, Socialism. Communism and Capitalism. Which one when comparing them are we closet too. Is it a little bit of all of them. Can Capitalism fail has nearly several times and was recused. What would we have without any government. Would it be anarchy what is anarchy is it we do as the ones that are strongest in society bullies the less fortunate in to submission and then what would this government be called. I forgot one and that is feudalism. That is where the rich ones own every thing and we become serfs and do not own anything.


Given my druthers I'd 'ruther have Capitalism myself.

Just sayin'....
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Re: Kentucky - Century Aluminum

Postby Bestoutwest » Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:53 pm

hurleyjd wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/opinions/trump-dooms-the-dreams-of-another-generation-of-steelworkers/2018/03/09/d53da2b8-23c5-11e8-86f6-54bfff693d2b_story.html

This is essential what has happened to every labor intensive job in America and around the world. They have machines that harvest a lot of the agricultural crops that took dozens of workers before. Example look at the size of the combines. There are berry picking machines. Most feedlots are very mechanized as ever before. Hard to mechanize a pasture but with proper management one person can manage more cows and be more competitive. Milking machines a mechanized to the point that one machine recognizes the cow washes the udder and milks each quarter and shuts off when it empties that quarter. Records the amount of milk and feeds the cow that required amount according to her production.



I'm seeing it around here all the time. Guys are putting in small (1-2 sections) pivots in the corners of their fields and pulling off the hand lines. It saves them on labor. We're becoming too mechanized, and at some point it's going to start to have some consequences.
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Re: Kentucky - Century Aluminum

Postby Bestoutwest » Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:55 pm

hurleyjd wrote:Fascism, Socialism. Communism and Capitalism. Which one when comparing them are we closet too. Is it a little bit of all of them. Can Capitalism fail has nearly several times and was recused. What would we have without any government. Would it be anarchy what is anarchy is it we do as the ones that are strongest in society bullies the less fortunate in to submission and then what would this government be called. I forgot one and that is feudalism. That is where the rich ones own every thing and we become serfs and do not own anything.


When the top 1% controls 90% of wealth, how far off are we from that?
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Re: Kentucky - Century Aluminum

Postby True Grit Farms » Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:48 pm

1wlimo wrote:
Supa Dexta wrote:
TexasBred wrote:Socialism ain't what it's made out to be comrade.


What does this even mean, in relation to my post?


The US is uncompetitive and make it worse by using government money to prop them up. Look at the car industry. Most of it is still junk compared to other makes. Socialism is what the US has been doing for years. Talk big about free world then get upset with the free world.


We'll let our dollar do the talking.
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Re: Kentucky - Century Aluminum

Postby TexasBred » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:20 pm

hurleyjd wrote:
TexasBred wrote:
Supa Dexta wrote:
What does this even mean, in relation to my post?



government controls all means of production and distribution of goods. ... Socialism is also characterized by the absence of private property. The idea is that if everyone works, everyone will reap the same benefits and prosper equally.


Fascism, Socialism. Communism and Capitalism. Which one when comparing them are we closet too. Is it a little bit of all of them. Can Capitalism fail has nearly several times and was recused. What would we have without any government. Would it be anarchy what is anarchy is it we do as the ones that are strongest in society bullies the less fortunate in to submission and then what would this government be called. I forgot one and that is feudalism. That is where the rich ones own every thing and we become serfs and do not own anything.

Hurley just a few days ago you were posting bout how much money you had, how much investment income you had coming in every month and how much more you could accumulate if you sold some land and apparently all your adult life you've had the opportunities to max our your potential earning power and reap the benefits. Don't think you would have any of that except in a capitalistic system.
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Re: Kentucky - Century Aluminum

Postby TexasBred » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:22 pm

1wlimo wrote:
Supa Dexta wrote:
TexasBred wrote:Socialism ain't what it's made out to be comrade.


What does this even mean, in relation to my post?


The US is uncompetitive and make it worse by using government money to prop them up. Look at the car industry. Most of it is still junk compared to other makes. Socialism is what the US has been doing for years. Talk big about free world then get upset with the free world.

Yep....especially those models made in Canada. :tiphat:
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Re: Kentucky - Century Aluminum

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TexasBred wrote:
hurleyjd wrote:
TexasBred wrote:

government controls all means of production and distribution of goods. ... Socialism is also characterized by the absence of private property. The idea is that if everyone works, everyone will reap the same benefits and prosper equally.


Fascism, Socialism. Communism and Capitalism. Which one when comparing them are we closet too. Is it a little bit of all of them. Can Capitalism fail has nearly several times and was recused. What would we have without any government. Would it be anarchy what is anarchy is it we do as the ones that are strongest in society bullies the less fortunate in to submission and then what would this government be called. I forgot one and that is feudalism. That is where the rich ones own every thing and we become serfs and do not own anything.

Hurley just a few days ago you were posting bout how much money you had, how much investment income you had coming in every month and how much more you could accumulate if you sold some land and apparently all your adult life you've had the opportunities to max our your potential earning power and reap the benefits. Don't think you would have any of that except in a capitalistic system.


You are right but I really like the socialism part that contributes a nice sum from Social security even after paying my Medicare premium. I also know if our government does not keep a lid on most things I could lose everything. If our government did not step in and rescue capitalism. There would be a catastrophic failure. No I would not like to live under any other system.
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Re: Kentucky - Century Aluminum

Postby TexasBred » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:32 pm

hurleyjd wrote:
TexasBred wrote:
hurleyjd wrote:
Fascism, Socialism. Communism and Capitalism. Which one when comparing them are we closet too. Is it a little bit of all of them. Can Capitalism fail has nearly several times and was recused. What would we have without any government. Would it be anarchy what is anarchy is it we do as the ones that are strongest in society bullies the less fortunate in to submission and then what would this government be called. I forgot one and that is feudalism. That is where the rich ones own every thing and we become serfs and do not own anything.

Hurley just a few days ago you were posting bout how much money you had, how much investment income you had coming in every month and how much more you could accumulate if you sold some land and apparently all your adult life you've had the opportunities to max our your potential earning power and reap the benefits. Don't think you would have any of that except in a capitalistic system.


You are right but I really like the socialism part that contributes a nice sum from Social security even after paying my Medicare premium. I also know if our government does not keep a lid on most things I could lose everything. If our government did not step in and rescue capitalism. There would be a catastrophic failure. No I would not like to live under any other system.

Did our gov't really rescue capitalism or did it simply use the tools available to help out one very small part of the entire system which would have pulled out anyway given the opportunity.
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