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Postby Cross-7 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:58 pm

I'll try to give as info as I know and get directly to the point as possible.
A good friend of mine's 19 year old daughter married a Algerian man and moved to Nyc.
She and him have a 6 month old baby.
She called her mom and said he was wanting to take her and the baby to Algeria and she was scared and that he was abusing her physically.
We flew her to OKC. Her mother drove and brought her home.
A week later her husband showed up and she left and didn't tell anyone till she was in OKC.
Her mother met them in OKC and he carried them to dinner.
He promised her he had her daughters best interest at heart and was going to move to OKC since her family so important to her and etc etc.
They flew back to NYC to settle up there and he was working on buying a home in Edmond, Ok.
They lost contact with the last couple of days. Her mother had been in contact with the police and she has disappeared.
She finally surfaced and contacted her mother on FB and they are in Algeria.
Her mother is beside herself with worry.
I looked him up on FB and he is full blooded muslim.

What kind of danger is she in and is there anything that can be done to get them back to the U.S. if she isn't willing ?
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Re: Algeria

Postby HDRider » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:03 pm

If she is NOT willing?
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Re: Algeria

Postby Cross-7 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:06 pm

HDRider wrote:If she is NOT willing?


Doesn't seem so
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Re: Algeria

Postby Caustic Burno » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:10 pm

You can't fix stupid or pick your children's mates.
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Re: Algeria

Postby Cross-7 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:16 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:You can't fix stupid or pick your children's mates.


That is true but her mother is about to breakdown
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Re: Algeria

Postby BrangusUSA » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:39 pm

The only way to bring someone back unwillingly from a foreign country is; a) the country kicks them out for x reason or b) through extradition i.e. Accused of a major crime and even then USA Must have a reciprocal agreement.
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Re: Algeria

Postby Bright Raven » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:41 pm

Here is the status listed by the US Dept of State:

The Department of State continues to warn U.S. citizens against travel to remote areas of Algeria due to the threat of terrorist attacks and kidnapping. This replaces the Travel Warning for Algeria dated December 13, 2016.

While violence has reduced significantly in recent years, terrorist groups remain active in some parts of the country. Although major cities are heavily policed, the possibility of terrorist acts in urban areas cannot be excluded. Extremists have conducted attacks in the following areas:

mountainous region south and east of Algiers (provinces of Blida, Boumerdes, Tizi Ouzou, Bouira, and Bejaia)
further east outside the city of Constantine
southern and eastern border regions, including Tebessa and the Chaambi mountains area, south of Souk Ahras, near the Tunisian border
Although most attacks are directed towards Algerian military or police, in September 2014, an ISIL-affiliated group abducted and killed a French citizen in the Kabylie region. In January 2013, an Al-Qaeda-linked organization attacked a gas production facility near In Amenas, Algeria, near the Libyan border, holding foreign and Algerian workers hostage, with dozens killed, including three U.S. citizens.

U.S. citizens should:

avoid travel within 50 km (31 miles) of the eastern border and within 450 km (280 miles) of the southern border.
avoid overland travel across the Sahara. Travel to Saharan cities only by air.
remain on principal highways when traveling to coastal/mountainous areas east of Algiers and the mountains immediately south of Algiers.
always travel with reputable travel agents who know the area.
avoid staying overnight outside of the main cities and tourist locations.
inform local police when staying in locations outside of major cities.
The Algerian government requires foreign diplomats and most foreign workers to contact the Ministry of Foreign Affairs when traveling between wilayas (provinces) so that the government can evaluate the need for police coordination, to include escorts. This requirement to coordinate travel may also limit the availability of U.S. consular services outside of the Algiers wilaya.

For further information:

See the State Department's travel website for the Worldwide Caution, Travel Warnings, Travel Alerts, and Algeria Country Specific Information.
Enroll in the Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP) to receive security messages and make it easier to locate you in an emergency.
Contact the U.S. Embassy in Algeria, located at 5 Chemin Cheikh Bachir El-Ibrahimi in the El Biar district of Algiers, at ACSAlgiers@state.gov. The work week is Sunday-Thursday, and services are available by appointment. For emergencies, including after hours, call [213]770-08-20 00.
Call 1-888-407-4747 toll-free in the United States and Canada or 1-202-501-4444 from other countries from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Eastern Time, Monday through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays).
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Re: Algeria

Postby True Grit Farms » Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:33 pm

Can't fix stupid, I wonder if they'll send her body back?
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Re: Algeria

Postby wacocowboy » Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:49 pm

I can't imagine that. Kids now days are so dumb and naive
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Re: Algeria

Postby boondocks » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:46 pm

His religion per se isn't the problem. The problem is that she is likely now stuck in a patriarchal society where women have no rights. She will never be able to leave with her child. In most countries in that part of the world, wives and kids are property. His family will likely also abuse her. If she makes it out alive, it will be without her child, in all likelihood. Heartbreaking for the family. :cry:
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Re: Algeria

Postby Son of Butch » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:06 am

Is the baby a boy or a girl? It can make a big difference as to treatment of a wife.
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Re: Algeria

Postby Son of Butch » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:10 am

wacocowboy wrote:I can't imagine that. Kids now days are so dumb and naive

Children are all born dumb, naive and self centered. It's the parenting that has failed. I blame Grandma.
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Re: Algeria

Postby Jogeephus » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:42 am

Son of Butch wrote:
wacocowboy wrote:I can't imagine that. Kids now days are so dumb and naive

Children are all born dumb, naive and self centered. It's the parenting that has failed. I blame Grandma.


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Re: Algeria

Postby Cross-7 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:43 am

She told her mother they were returning to the U.S. on Oct 12 and they already have airline tickets.
Her SIL also reassured her that everything was ok.

They are staying with his parents and her daughter has said they have been really nice to her and the granddaughter.

So now I guess it's a waiting game till Oct 12
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Re: Algeria

Postby Craig Miller » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:45 am

Sometimes abused spouses have trouble leaving the abuser. When he came to see them he probably swore he'd never abuse her again and she believed him. Happens all the time.
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