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Vegas shooting

Postby callmefence » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:21 am

Bad bad deal. Why I don't go to events like this. A cc hand gun wouldn't have been much use here..bad bad deal.
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Postby skyhightree1 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:23 am

Bad deal all the way around.. Yes that's also why I avoid big events. They are on CNN talking about how bad semi auto assault rifles are.
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Re: Vegas shooting

Postby Bright Raven » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:59 am

callmefence wrote:Bad bad deal. Why I don't go to events like this. A cc hand gun wouldn't have been much use here..bad bad deal.


Its inevitable, there will be limits on the types of arms that a citizen can bear. Might take years or more events like this, but restrictions are coming. A Nation cannot tolerate events like this.

Regarding the level of protection provided by being armed: you are correct. In fact, even faced with equal power, if an assailant is motivated and calculating, being armed is no defense. There is no defense from an assassin, lone wolf or ambush.
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Re: Vegas shooting

Postby TN Cattle Man » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:59 am

skyhightree1 wrote:Bad deal all the way around.. Yes that's also why I avoid big events. They are on CNN talking about how bad semi auto assault rifles are.

Reports that I heard this morning are saying that the shooter was using a fully automatic weapon.
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Re: Vegas shooting

Postby Bright Raven » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:04 am

TN Cattle Man wrote:
skyhightree1 wrote:Bad deal all the way around.. Yes that's also why I avoid big events. They are on CNN talking about how bad semi auto assault rifles are.

Reports that I heard this morning are saying that the shooter was using a fully automatic weapon.


They are not illegal as I understand it. Here is the link:

http://www.oldglorygunsandammo.com/nfa- ... i-weapons/

Class III NFA Weapons / Title 2 firearms are not as commonly known nor as straight forward as the Title 1 firearms. All class III / title 2 weapons fall into 1 of 6 different categories.

1) Machineguns,

2) Short Barreled Rifles (SBRs),

3) Short Barreled Shotguns (SBSs),

4) Suppressors,

5) Any Other Weapon (AOWs) and

6) Destructive Devices.

All title 2 firearms are regulated by what’s known as the National Firearm Act or what we refer to as NFA. One could spend months reading about NFA but I’ll hit the major misconceptions… which are, contrary to the assumptions by many individuals AND even law enforcement, that NFA weaponry …

1) Is legal in almost every state. Most all 6 categories above are allowed in just about all states within the Continental United States. A few states restrict machinegun ownership, others may restrict short barreled shotguns (SBSs) or suppressors, etc.
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Re: Vegas shooting

Postby callmefence » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:08 am

TN Cattle Man wrote:
skyhightree1 wrote:Bad deal all the way around.. Yes that's also why I avoid big events. They are on CNN talking about how bad semi auto assault rifles are.

Reports that I heard this morning are saying that the shooter was using a fully automatic weapon.


Fox is reporting that it was a fully automatic weapon. And the shooter had a extensive criminal record.
So the guns where already illegal.
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Re: Vegas shooting

Postby Bright Raven » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:11 am

callmefence wrote:
TN Cattle Man wrote:
skyhightree1 wrote:Bad deal all the way around.. Yes that's also why I avoid big events. They are on CNN talking about how bad semi auto assault rifles are.

Reports that I heard this morning are saying that the shooter was using a fully automatic weapon.


Fox is reporting that it was a fully automatic weapon. And the shooter had a extensive criminal record.
So the guns where already illegal.


His rights are affected by his criminal record. However, fully automatic weapons are not illegal in all states.
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Re: Vegas shooting

Postby skyhightree1 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:19 am

callmefence wrote:
TN Cattle Man wrote:
skyhightree1 wrote:Bad deal all the way around.. Yes that's also why I avoid big events. They are on CNN talking about how bad semi auto assault rifles are.

Reports that I heard this morning are saying that the shooter was using a fully automatic weapon.


Fox is reporting that it was a fully automatic weapon. And the shooter had a extensive criminal record.
So the guns where already illegal.


Figures CNN didn't know what they are talking about.
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Re: Vegas shooting

Postby kenny thomas » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:23 am

Bright Raven wrote:
callmefence wrote:
TN Cattle Man wrote:Reports that I heard this morning are saying that the shooter was using a fully automatic weapon.


Fox is reporting that it was a fully automatic weapon. And the shooter had a extensive criminal record.
So the guns where already illegal.


His rights are affected by his criminal record. However, fully automatic weapons are not illegal in all states.

Full auto requires a permit and an extensive background check but there are lots of them around. There is a place in KY you can go and shoot most any kind you can imagine. You pay for the ammo and the opportunity to try one under their supervision.
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Postby Bright Raven » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:35 am

kenny thomas wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
callmefence wrote:
Fox is reporting that it was a fully automatic weapon. And the shooter had a extensive criminal record.
So the guns where already illegal.


His rights are affected by his criminal record. However, fully automatic weapons are not illegal in all states.

Full auto requires a permit and an extensive background check but there are lots of them around. There is a place in KY you can go and shoot most any kind you can imagine. You pay for the ammo and the opportunity to try one under their supervision.


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Re: Vegas shooting

Postby Dogs and Cows » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:42 am

Very sorry to hear about all this...thoughts and prayers to all affected.

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Re: Vegas shooting

Postby callmefence » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:47 am

Bright Raven wrote:
callmefence wrote:
TN Cattle Man wrote:Reports that I heard this morning are saying that the shooter was using a fully automatic weapon.


Fox is reporting that it was a fully automatic weapon. And the shooter had a extensive criminal record.
So the guns where already illegal.


His rights are affected by his criminal record. However, fully automatic weapons are not illegal in all states.


I'm repeating what fox reported. Although as Kenny stated. A permit is required. And it's not easy to get. It's looking like the only thing this guy could have carried legally would have been a musket.
Not to take away from the loss of human life that occurred. I am not ashamed to say thank God it was not a legally permitted person who did this.
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Re: Vegas shooting

Postby Caustic Burno » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:51 am

callmefence wrote:Bad bad deal. Why I don't go to events like this. A cc hand gun wouldn't have been much use here..bad bad deal.


We have a bunch of loose screws in society today. Rehab along with medication hasn't worked well we need to go back to mad dog treatment you kill it. We should do it publicly as well.
The prison system needs to return to chain gang.
This guy might have fallen through the cracks there are countless others we play catch and release with.
I think a lot of this would go away also if the 24 hour news cycle did as well they breed a lot of this crap IMO for some reason.
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Re: Vegas shooting

Postby Cross-7 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:27 am

Have they figured out his motive ?
Why target a Jason Aldean concert ?
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Postby Caustic Burno » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:34 am

Cross-7 wrote:Have figured out his motive ?
Why target a Jason Aldean concert ?


These kind of guys are nuts!
There is no motive for this kind of stuff.
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