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Re: Cops and school shootings.

Postby Brute 23 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:36 pm

Obviously he didn't do his job but any thing past that unwarranted IMO. I'm not going to pass judgement on him.
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Postby skyhightree1 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:38 pm

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Ryder wrote:I don't know all the facts about the cop who didn't go in the school.
Not right to just rush to judgement. Don't know what he was thinking.
Monday morning quarterbacking?

I agree. Looks really bad though and no matter what the truth is, there will be people calling him a coward and blaming him for kids getting shot.

Nobody knows what they would have done in that situation; although we will all claim we would have gone into the school and been willing to lay down our lives. It's like when you see a news story about an assault or something that happens in front of a group of people. Every guy that wasn't there says what they would have done to stop it if they were around; the assault just so happened in front of the only 20 guys in the world that wouldn't respond in a heroic manner.


Well one things for sure if he had did everything that he could have he would not have left his job. Him leaving makes it look bad on him we do not yet have every single detail but I don't know any hero's that resign.
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Re: Cops and school shootings.

Postby ez14. » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:40 pm

skyhightree1 wrote:
ChrisB wrote:
Ryder wrote:I don't know all the facts about the cop who didn't go in the school.
Not right to just rush to judgement. Don't know what he was thinking.
Monday morning quarterbacking?

I agree. Looks really bad though and no matter what the truth is, there will be people calling him a coward and blaming him for kids getting shot.

Nobody knows what they would have done in that situation; although we will all claim we would have gone into the school and been willing to lay down our lives. It's like when you see a news story about an assault or something that happens in front of a group of people. Every guy that wasn't there says what they would have done to stop it if they were around; the assault just so happened in front of the only 20 guys in the world that wouldn't respond in a heroic manner.


Well one things for sure if he had did everything that he could have he would not have left his job. Him leaving makes it look bad on him we do not yet have every single detail but I don't know any hero's that resign.
got a good point there
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Postby hurleyjd » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:58 pm

Did any you Monday morning quarter backs notice that the High Sheriff said that from now on the deputys at the schools will be carrying an AR 15. Big school to rush into to stop something when you have no idea who the shooter is or how many. He should have pulled the pistol and went in with his flashlight like they do on the crime shows on TV and sneaked around and looked behind every corner. Then moved on. The shooting only lasted 6 minutes. The sheriff, Trump and the politicians have to have a scapegoat and the deputy is it. Might be time to register the guns like they did when RR was shot. I have a 243 bolt action carbine that is registered. Has been for nigh on fifty years. On the assault rifles with multi magazines need to be registered and taxed each year and a title transfer occur if I sold it.
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Postby Caustic Burno » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:12 pm

hurleyjd wrote:Did any you Monday morning quarter backs notice that the High Sheriff said that from now on the deputys at the schools will be carrying an AR 15. Big school to rush into to stop something when you have no idea who the shooter is or how many. He should have pulled the pistol and went in with his flashlight like they do on the crime shows on TV and sneaked around and looked behind every corner. Then moved on. The shooting only lasted 6 minutes. The sheriff, Trump and the politicians have to have a scapegoat and the deputy is it. Might be time to register the guns like they did when RR was shot. I have a 243 bolt action carbine that is registered. Has been for nigh on fifty years. On the assault rifles with multi magazines need to be registered and taxed each year and a title transfer occur if I sold it.



Why is he a scapegoat for hiding armed while children were being shot.
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Postby M-5 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:14 pm

ez14. wrote:
skyhightree1 wrote:
ChrisB wrote:I agree. Looks really bad though and no matter what the truth is, there will be people calling him a coward and blaming him for kids getting shot.

Nobody knows what they would have done in that situation; although we will all claim we would have gone into the school and been willing to lay down our lives. It's like when you see a news story about an assault or something that happens in front of a group of people. Every guy that wasn't there says what they would have done to stop it if they were around; the assault just so happened in front of the only 20 guys in the world that wouldn't respond in a heroic manner.


Well one things for sure if he had did everything that he could have he would not have left his job. Him leaving makes it look bad on him we do not yet have every single detail but I don't know any hero's that resign.
got a good point there


While I have never had to engage a shooter I have put myself in dangerous situations without fear of my life. For most people that have been in this situation they all say the same thing is I did not think and just did what I was supposed to do. Everyone is not a leader and willing to die for anyone else. Its apparently this coward did not care about these kids.
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Postby True Grit Farms » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:22 pm

Only a ignorant fool thinks guns kill people. The school cop needed to call for backup and then try and get into position to intercept the murderer. Anything past 15 or 20 yards and a pistol is no match for an AR. I would like to know what the cop was thinking and why he didn't take action myself, who knows he might have a good reason.
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Postby jehosofat » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:24 pm

hurleyjd wrote: I have a 243 bolt action carbine that is registered. Has been for nigh on fifty years. On the assault rifles with multi magazines need to be registered and taxed each year and a title transfer occur if I sold it.


This .243 that you speak of, how did you "register" it? Who did you "register" it with?
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Postby M-5 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:26 pm

jehosofat wrote:
hurleyjd wrote: I have a 243 bolt action carbine that is registered. Has been for nigh on fifty years. On the assault rifles with multi magazines need to be registered and taxed each year and a title transfer occur if I sold it.


This .243 that you speak of, how did you "register" it? Who did you "register" it with?


I'm curious about this too.
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Postby greybeard » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:05 pm

The only Texas firearm registration I know of is manufacturer warranty registration and I've bought long guns since 1968. It can't be a county thing, because Texas state constitution precludes that.
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Re: Cops and school shootings.

Postby Bestoutwest » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:06 pm

jehosofat wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
bball wrote:That man will never be the same again. The shame and guilt would eat me alive. One of those 2 or 3 moments in a man's life when the heroes are separated from those that arent.


I would not be surprised for him to take is own life.


Hope so.


Wishing another person to kill them self speaks volumes of your character. While he did not do what we all thought he should have, to hope suicideon someone is drastically uncalled for.
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Re: Cops and school shootings.

Postby jehosofat » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:09 pm

Bestoutwest wrote:
jehosofat wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
I would not be surprised for him to take is own life.


Hope so.


Wishing another person to kill them self speaks volumes of your character. While he did not do what we all thought he should have, to hope suicideon someone is drastically uncalled for.


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Re: Cops and school shootings.

Postby greybeard » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:10 pm

The only Texas firearm registration I know of is manufacturer warranty registration and I've bought long guns since 1968. It can't be a county thing, because Texas state constitution precludes that.

The fact that the sheriff Israel expressed dismay at the resource officer's reaction (or lack of it) is telling.
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Re: Cops and school shootings.

Postby Bestoutwest » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:21 pm

jehosofat wrote:
Bestoutwest wrote:
jehosofat wrote:
Hope so.


Wishing another person to kill them self speaks volumes of your character. While he did not do what we all thought he should have, to hope suicideon someone is drastically uncalled for.


When people reference my character, the most common phrase is "brutally honest"

That wasn’t the direction I was going in, but pat yourself on the back if you’d like.
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Postby greybeard » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:28 pm

True Grit Farms wrote:Only a ignorant fool thinks guns kill people. The school cop needed to call for backup and then try and get into position to intercept the murderer. Anything past 15 or 20 yards and a pistol is no match for an AR. I would like to know what the cop was thinking and why he didn't take action myself, who knows he might have a good reason.


I'll just leave this right here........
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/05/ ... t-honored/
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