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Re: civility

Postby Bright Raven » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:52 pm

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Edit to add: Like Dad and I were talking the other evening.....Everyone better stand up and pay attention to these young folks. They have a legitimate gripe, but they just don't understand cause and effect well enough to make good decisions.....yet. Instead of berating and alienating the other side, engage in a worthwhile conversation. It's just not possible to come up with an agreeable solution to their problems, if you don't know what they are.


I agree. I think in five years their influence will produce gun control legislation. I don't think they are alienated yet but given the extremes that divide Americans on this issue, they will be.



This is where I think the country fractures from the far lefties.
It is happening in Ca. now. Unless something radically changes in the hard lines drawn in our political environment.
Sooner or later this divide will be paid for in blood one way or the other IMO.


The extremism, on both sides, is alarming. I don't doubt civil disobedience but I doubt it will go so far as a declaration of Civil War. People on both sides will moderate their position when they taste war. Maybe that is what it needed to get both ends of the bell curve pulled back under the main body.
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Re: civility

Postby Caustic Burno » Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:32 pm

The left side is the most violent look at history. Be it socialism,communism or our own Democratic Party go back and look at the wars started over not being in lock step.
The side doing all the protesting is the one that has committed the most atrocities. Little ironic.
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Re: civility

Postby Bestoutwest » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:04 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:The left side is the most violent look at history. Be it socialism,communism or our own Democratic Party go back and look at the wars started over not being in lock step.
The side doing all the protesting is the one that has committed the most atrocities. Little ironic.


I think it's b/c there's such destitution among them that when they finally get an opportunity for "what's theirs" (not that I agree with it) that they go a bit overboard. How many revolutions end with the death of the leadership? I'm hoping that America isn't headed that way, only thing that may stave it off is the lack of motivation with the Facebook crowd.
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Re: civility

Postby Bestoutwest » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:06 pm

bball wrote:On this particular board, civility is often mistaken as weakness.


It's easy to be a jerk when you're a keyboard warrior, but I bet that the vast majority of the people on here don't act like that in public-myself included. I'm more apt to let someone spew their big idea on something, and if I don't agree with it I move along. Here I'll call a spade a spade, so to speak.
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Re: civility

Postby TexasBred » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:07 pm

boondocks wrote:Ok, so as best I can track this thread so far, many CTers (who pride themselves on being upright moral people, many Christians) have no.problem.whatsoever with a grown man (who hosts a nightly tv show on ABC in St. Louis) using the public airways to brag that he is going to "ram a hot poker up the [ ]" of a high school student, who has dared to state opinions that the "grown" man disagrees with.
Got it.
(ps--there are 20-something million US teens. There were 53 known "Tide Pod" cases last year. (It's become more an internet-meme thing than an actual thing). Dismissing an entire generation based on the acts of an infinitesimal few would set a standard none of us "adult" generations could stand up to. There will be a few "Tide Pod" eaters in every generation).


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Re: civility

Postby Ryder » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:14 pm

TexasBred wrote:
boondocks wrote:Ok, so as best I can track this thread so far, many CTers (who pride themselves on being upright moral people, many Christians) have no.problem.whatsoever with a grown man (who hosts a nightly tv show on ABC in St. Louis) using the public airways to brag that he is going to "ram a hot poker up the [ ]" of a high school student, who has dared to state opinions that the "grown" man disagrees with.
Got it.
(ps--there are 20-something million US teens. There were 53 known "Tide Pod" cases last year. (It's become more an internet-meme thing than an actual thing). Dismissing an entire generation based on the acts of an infinitesimal few would set a standard none of us "adult" generations could stand up to. There will be a few "Tide Pod" eaters in every generation).


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Mine neither. What is the solution???
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Re: civility

Postby Caustic Burno » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:52 pm

boondocks wrote:Ok, so as best I can track this thread so far, many CTers (who pride themselves on being upright moral people, many Christians) have no.problem.whatsoever with a grown man (who hosts a nightly tv show on ABC in St. Louis) using the public airways to brag that he is going to "ram a hot poker up the [ ]" of a high school student, who has dared to state opinions that the "grown" man disagrees with.
Got it.
(ps--there are 20-something million US teens. There were 53 known "Tide Pod" cases last year. (It's become more an internet-meme thing than an actual thing). Dismissing an entire generation based on the acts of an infinitesimal few would set a standard none of us "adult" generations could stand up to. There will be a few "Tide Pod" eaters in every generation).



Maybe you need to look for a board with a safe space.
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Re: civility

Postby boondocks » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:20 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
boondocks wrote:Ok, so as best I can track this thread so far, many CTers (who pride themselves on being upright moral people, many Christians) have no.problem.whatsoever with a grown man (who hosts a nightly tv show on ABC in St. Louis) using the public airways to brag that he is going to "ram a hot poker up the [ ]" of a high school student, who has dared to state opinions that the "grown" man disagrees with.
Got it.
(ps--there are 20-something million US teens. There were 53 known "Tide Pod" cases last year. (It's become more an internet-meme thing than an actual thing). Dismissing an entire generation based on the acts of an infinitesimal few would set a standard none of us "adult" generations could stand up to. There will be a few "Tide Pod" eaters in every generation).



Maybe you need to look for a board with a safe space.


LOL...Naw, I'll stick around, CB, despite your kind invite ;) "Safe" is overrated. Gotta have a little danger, right?
It's the guy in my original post who needs a safe space. He can't debate something on the merits (with a high school student, nonetheless) without resorting to saying he's going to ram his __ with a hot poker. Many would be up in arms if a gun-control-advocating adult had made the same statement about a high-school kid who was advocating 2nd amendment rights. I just don't like hypocrisy, I guess. I respect the posters here who disagree with the high school student's message but have nonetheless said the guy attacking him went too far.
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Re: civility

Postby boondocks » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:29 pm

bball wrote:On this particular board, civility is often mistaken as weakness.


Agree with bball that civility is all-too-often mistaken for weakness. To me it can be a sign of self-discipline and willpower. It takes zero self-control to pop off willy-nilly.
I do try to stay civil but I can hold a grudge like nobody's business. Sometimes I think "I should work on that." Then I think, naw. lol
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Re: civility

Postby Nesikep » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:40 am

I think people take figurative speech far too literally and get too butthurt about little crap too much.. Was what he said a little far, well, perhaps.. but everyone jumping and calling on the advertisers to pull the show is a little over the top too.
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Re: civility

Postby boondocks » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:00 am

Will have to agree to disagree with you on this one, Nesi. Had the shoe been on the other foot (hot poker threatened in a different ___), the outcry would have been off-the-charts. I would like for folks to get back to discussing their differences without personal (obscene) attacks, let alone on kids. Wild-eyed optimist, I know....
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Re: civility

Postby gizmom » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:27 am

I have read this entire thread, my opinion is the man was out of line with the hot poker comment. I also think many over reacted to the comment. I am concerned that these high school students don’t have a full understanding of the second amendment. On the other hand they have a very good understanding that when they go to school there is a very real possibility that they could get shot. Iistead of calling them names we might want to have a a conversation with them, instead of alienating them. Keep in mind these young adults are going to be voting in just a few short years. I don’t blame them for being upset for crying out loud they are the ones being targeted. I am also old enough to understand that the second amendment is important and has too be protected. We have always had crazy people in the world that did horrible things, the difference is now the horrible things are being shown live on Facebook. Folks we can’t fix crazy, we can take steps to try to protect our schools against crazy deranged people that want to do harm. For crying out loud my six year old grand daughter was telling me about her school lockdown drill this week. It reminded me of the nuclear bomb drills we had when I was in elementary school, we all had to get under our desk..... oh yea that was going to help right. But even back 55 years ago we were dealing with crazy. Instead of mocking these young people we better start praying for them.

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Re: civility

Postby Bright Raven » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:03 am

boondocks wrote:
LOL...Naw, I'll stick around, CB, despite your kind invite ;) "Safe" is overrated. Gotta have a little danger, right?
It's the guy in my original post who needs a safe space. He can't debate something on the merits (with a high school student, nonetheless) without resorting to saying he's going to ram his __ with a hot poker. Many would be up in arms if a gun-control-advocating adult had made the same statement about a high-school kid who was advocating 2nd amendment rights. I just don't like hypocrisy, I guess. I respect the posters here who disagree with the high school student's message but have nonetheless said the guy attacking him went too far.


You hit that nail on the head lady.

This to me, is the essence of all these national debates. It's the hypocrisy!

Both sides are so 'ate up' with hypocrisy. Your example is 110 % on. If an adult male advocate for repealing the 2nd Amendment stated that he would ram a hot poker up the bunghole of a high school pro gun advocate, the guys here would be whinning that he should be shot behind the ear.

Of course, it is a testament to HYPOCRISY. It's the root to what divides the nation. Then you got guys like True Grit that cannot think his way out of a paper bag so all he can do is call anyone who has the slightest difference with him a "terrorist".
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Re: civility

Postby Mod2 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:12 am

Bright Raven wrote:
boondocks wrote:
LOL...Naw, I'll stick around, CB, despite your kind invite ;) "Safe" is overrated. Gotta have a little danger, right?
It's the guy in my original post who needs a safe space. He can't debate something on the merits (with a high school student, nonetheless) without resorting to saying he's going to ram his __ with a hot poker. Many would be up in arms if a gun-control-advocating adult had made the same statement about a high-school kid who was advocating 2nd amendment rights. I just don't like hypocrisy, I guess. I respect the posters here who disagree with the high school student's message but have nonetheless said the guy attacking him went too far.


You hit that nail on the head lady.

This to me, is the essence of all these national debates. It's the hypocrisy!

Both sides are so 'ate up' with hypocrisy. Your example is 110 % on. If an adult male advocate for repealing the 2nd Amendment stated that he would ram a hot poker up the bunghole of a high school pro gun advocate, the guys here would be whinning that he should be shot behind the ear.

Of course, it is a testament to HYPOCRISY. It's the root to what divides the nation. Then you got guys like True Grit that cannot think his way out of a paper bag so all he can do is call anyone who has the slightest difference with him a "terrorist".


Your out of line!!
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Re: civility

Postby Farm Fence Solutions » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:19 am

Mod2 wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
boondocks wrote:
LOL...Naw, I'll stick around, CB, despite your kind invite ;) "Safe" is overrated. Gotta have a little danger, right?
It's the guy in my original post who needs a safe space. He can't debate something on the merits (with a high school student, nonetheless) without resorting to saying he's going to ram his __ with a hot poker. Many would be up in arms if a gun-control-advocating adult had made the same statement about a high-school kid who was advocating 2nd amendment rights. I just don't like hypocrisy, I guess. I respect the posters here who disagree with the high school student's message but have nonetheless said the guy attacking him went too far.


You hit that nail on the head lady.

This to me, is the essence of all these national debates. It's the hypocrisy!

Both sides are so 'ate up' with hypocrisy. Your example is 110 % on. If an adult male advocate for repealing the 2nd Amendment stated that he would ram a hot poker up the bunghole of a high school pro gun advocate, the guys here would be whinning that he should be shot behind the ear.

Of course, it is a testament to HYPOCRISY. It's the root to what divides the nation. Then you got guys like True Grit that cannot think his way out of a paper bag so all he can do is call anyone who has the slightest difference with him a "terrorist".


Your out of line!!


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