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Re: No Longer the Boy Scouts

Postby TCRanch » Mon May 07, 2018 7:29 am

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Son of Butch wrote:Did everyone miss reading where it says the girls and boys will be in SEPARATE units?


I totally missed that. So it begs the question, what is the point? They should just revamp the Girl Scouts to make it more leadership based!

I did see that but the article didn't elaborate. Define "separate". Does that mean the boy/girl scouts have completely separate chapters & activities or does that mean co-ed with separate facilities on camping trips. Separate facilities is the equivalent of a hot wire separating the bulls from the cows (or in this case, heifers).
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Re: No Longer the Boy Scouts

Postby FlyingLSimmentals » Mon May 07, 2018 8:44 am

Had a family friend that was a leader in the boy scouts that would always ask my brothers and I to join the scouts. We always thought they were kind of girly anyhow. Was always glad that dad and mom never made us join. We were to busy on the farm to go play boy scout anyway. Heck my senior year in high school the FFA had a higher percentage of ladies than guys. The guys did more at the vocational school with that group than FFA.
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Re: No Longer the Boy Scouts

Postby Son of Butch » Sat May 19, 2018 11:33 pm

sstterry wrote:what is the point? They should just revamp the Girl Scouts to make it more leadership based!

The point is those Boy Scout badges don't sew themselves on. :)
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Re: No Longer the Boy Scouts

Postby Hook2.0 » Sun May 20, 2018 1:25 pm

They hot melt glue in pretty darn good
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Re: No Longer the Boy Scouts

Postby Son of Butch » Sun May 20, 2018 9:48 pm

Hook2.0 wrote:They hot melt glue in pretty darn good

So you're sayin' there's no place for women in scouting?
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Re: No Longer the Boy Scouts

Postby Hook2.0 » Mon May 21, 2018 1:50 pm

Son of Butch wrote:
Hook2.0 wrote:They hot melt glue in pretty darn good

So you're sayin' there's no place for women in scouting?
:) :) :)

There’s always a need for Den mother’s. But as for young ladies being members...no
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Re: No Longer the Boy Scouts

Postby slick4591 » Sat May 26, 2018 9:16 am

Not that I agree, but it's probably better they do this.

Boy Scouts to Provide Condoms at World Scout Jamboree
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Re: No Longer the Boy Scouts

Postby Stocker Steve » Sat May 26, 2018 10:01 am

greybeard wrote:Skip to the other important part....
Which Scouts is gonna be selling the cookies now?


They will both be selling gender neutral cookies.
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Re: No Longer the Boy Scouts

Postby Stocker Steve » Sat May 26, 2018 10:25 am

Son of Butch wrote: The point is BSA enrollment has dropped 12% so they are raiding the Girl Scout territory (not affiliated) to recoup losses. BSA and GSA have no control over what the other does and they each have their own fund raising activities. My guess is they expect to cherry pick the sisters of boy scouts for easy enrollment and more funding.


I was a scout master for 6 years. All my kids are Eagles. Our troop was based on high adventure. We winter camped in BWCA, did canoe trips, did cycling trips, horse packed in MT n shot praire dogs along on the way, did a week per year at summer camp, and ... We had several Dads forcing their kids to sign up so they could also go on the high adventure trips.

Some of our best BSA leaders were Grandmas. They were usually trying to backfill a single parent family, and were thrilled with any male leadership they could leverage, but did summer camp and admin rather than high adventure.

Not all these activities were sanctioned by BSA - - so we had some unsanctioned camping events for troop families and then girls n guns n throwing axes could come along. NO girls went camping w/o their mothers.
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Re: No Longer the Boy Scouts

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Sat May 26, 2018 11:11 am

Stocker Steve wrote:
Son of Butch wrote: The point is BSA enrollment has dropped 12% so they are raiding the Girl Scout territory (not affiliated) to recoup losses. BSA and GSA have no control over what the other does and they each have their own fund raising activities. My guess is they expect to cherry pick the sisters of boy scouts for easy enrollment and more funding.


I was a scout master for 6 years. All my kids are Eagles. Our troop was based on high adventure. We winter camped in BWCA, did canoe trips, did cycling trips, horse packed in MT n shot praire dogs along on the way, did a week per year at summer camp, and ... We had several Dads forcing their kids to sign up so they could also go on the high adventure trips.

Some of our best BSA leaders were Grandmas. They were usually trying to backfill a single parent family, and were thrilled with any male leadership they could leverage, but did summer camp and admin rather than high adventure.

Not all these activities were sanctioned by BSA - - so we had some unsanctioned camping events for troop families and then girls n guns n throwing axes could come along. NO girls went camping w/o their mothers.

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Re: No Longer the Boy Scouts

Postby sstterry » Sat May 26, 2018 1:23 pm

slick4591 wrote:Not that I agree, but it's probably better they do this.

Boy Scouts to Provide Condoms at World Scout Jamboree


Quotes from the World Organization of the Scout Movement (this was done in the 1990's at the urging of UNAIDS, UNICEF, the World Health Organisation and the UNFPA) :

"This decision was made by the World Organization of the Scout Movement, not Boy Scouts of America; condoms have been available at these events since the early 1990s and an official policy mandating condoms was implemented in 2002; the 2019 World Scout Jamboree won't be the first such event with women and girls in attendance."

"If you are curious about how co-ed Scouting works, you have to see how the rest of the world does it. Of the 169 members of the World Organization of the Scouting Movement (WOSM), only fourteen countries have specifically boys-only Scouting. So that means that our co-hosts, Canada and Mexico, will be bringing tons of young women to the 2019 WSJ. Not to mention, almost every other nation across the globe will be joining them!"
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Re: No Longer the Boy Scouts

Postby slick4591 » Sat May 26, 2018 1:37 pm

sstterry wrote:
slick4591 wrote:Not that I agree, but it's probably better they do this.

Boy Scouts to Provide Condoms at World Scout Jamboree


Quotes from the World Organization of the Scout Movement (this was done in the 1990's at the urging of UNAIDS, UNICEF, the World Health Organisation and the UNFPA) :

"This decision was made by the World Organization of the Scout Movement, not Boy Scouts of America; condoms have been available at these events since the early 1990s and an official policy mandating condoms was implemented in 2002; the 2019 World Scout Jamboree won't be the first such event with women and girls in attendance."

"If you are curious about how co-ed Scouting works, you have to see how the rest of the world does it. Of the 169 members of the World Organization of the Scouting Movement (WOSM), only fourteen countries have specifically boys-only Scouting. So that means that our co-hosts, Canada and Mexico, will be bringing tons of young women to the 2019 WSJ. Not to mention, almost every other nation across the globe will be joining them!"


Sounds something like the Olympics.
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Re: No Longer the Boy Scouts

Postby Ryder » Sat May 26, 2018 6:00 pm

[quote="slick4591Sounds something like the Olympics.[/quote]
That's what I was thinking.
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Re: No Longer the Boy Scouts

Postby Stocker Steve » Sat May 26, 2018 7:08 pm

Be Prepared

has changed.
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Re: No Longer the Boy Scouts

Postby sstterry » Sat May 26, 2018 8:56 pm

Stocker Steve wrote:Be Prepared

has changed.

Not really :)
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