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Trade Imbalance

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Postby sim.-ang.king » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:47 am

With enough calulations, and moving numbers around I can make 2+2=6.
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Postby HDRider » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:13 am

2/3 of GE revenue is outside the US. That is such a misleading article.

I wonder too if in their calculation they figure how much foreign companies make and sell in the US.
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Re: Trade Imbalance

Postby hurleyjd » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:55 pm

sim.-ang.king wrote:With enough calulations, and moving numbers around I can make 2+2=6.


Are you using your math degree from Trump University.
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Re: Trade Imbalance

Postby Brute 23 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:21 pm

Exactly, every one is playing games with numbers here to support their cause. We see it on this cattle board all day long.

I think all these tariffs are sketchy and the government should stay out of that game. My policy would be an eye for an eye. If China puts 30% on us we put 30% on them. They put 0% on us we put 0% on them. The end. With the exception of sanctions the government needs to stay out of it. It would not hurt my feelings if German's use German stuff and Chinese use Chinese stuff it that is what is has to come to.

At the end of the day, people want to do business with the US, both buy and sell. We should not be bending over for any one.
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Re: Trade Imbalance

Postby HDRider » Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:54 pm

hurleyjd wrote:
sim.-ang.king wrote:With enough calulations, and moving numbers around I can make 2+2=6.


Are you using your math degree from Trump University.

I am surprised you are siding with the robber barons at GE and such
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Postby sim.-ang.king » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:17 pm

HDRider wrote:
hurleyjd wrote:
sim.-ang.king wrote:With enough calulations, and moving numbers around I can make 2+2=6.


Are you using your math degree from Trump University.

I am surprised you are siding with the robber barons at GE and such

Socialist always side with the capitalist pigs when they support their adgenda.
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Postby kenny thomas » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:52 pm

Brute 23 wrote:Exactly, every one is playing games with numbers here to support their cause. We see it on this cattle board all day long.

I think all these tariffs are sketchy and the government should stay out of that game. My policy would be an eye for an eye. If China puts 30% on us we put 30% on them. They put 0% on us we put 0% on them. The end. With the exception of sanctions the government needs to stay out of it. It would not hurt my feelings if German's use German stuff and Chinese use Chinese stuff it that is what is has to come to.

At the end of the day, people want to do business with the US, both buy and sell. We should not be bending over for any one.

The looser in this is us, the US Farmers. We will pay more for items from China but will get less for our farm products because they will cost the Chinese people more so they will resist buying. As usual the little man suffers.
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Re: Trade Imbalance

Postby ddd75 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:11 am

yea.. china is only up 800+ billion in the last few years. They are completely one sided with trade and business practices. Let's not forget they are STEALING our tech for years now.. and also force companies that want to trade with them to share tech secrets.

And the EU buys almost ZERO ag products from the US..

trump is trying to level the playing field that hasn't been fair in a long time.
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Postby backhoeboogie » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:22 am

ddd75 wrote:yea.. china is only up 800+ billion in the last few years. They are completely one sided with trade and business practices. Let's not forget they are STEALING our tech for years now.. and also force companies that want to trade with them to share tech secrets.

And the EU buys almost ZERO ag products from the US..

trump is trying to level the playing field that hasn't been fair in a long time.


Yes. Technology theft. Lack of quality too. They have been playing dirty pool way too long. You play with fire, you get burned.

Americans buy it up at Amazon or Walmart.

The media can argue and twist it, but in the end, we are the consumers. I buy American made at every opportunity. I shop Maw and Paw business at every opportunity.

It is pretty easy for me to boycott corporations that are anti American. e.g. Starbucks etc.
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Postby Supa Dexta » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:51 am

'Let's move all manufacturing and technology (that made you the world power house) to china so we can buy cheap sh*t and not have to deal with regulations, workers rights, environmental concerns..etc..'

'..Wait, why are we paying china for all of our stuff now!! China is so terrible for this huge imbalance, they are taking advantage of us!'

Smooth move geniuses.
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Postby backhoeboogie » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:16 am

That is a valid point. We have no foundries left here, because of all the regulations. But now steel mills are polluting the earth worse than ever before, just no here.
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Re: Trade Imbalance

Postby Brute 23 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:21 am

I think people are just scared of change in general. I truly the believe the market will correct itself and that trade balance as a whole is good. Sadly, if this sinks your business it was probably on its way out any ways.
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Postby greybeard » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:54 am

Supa Dexta wrote:'Let's move all manufacturing and technology (that made you the world power house) to china so we can buy cheap sh*t and not have to deal with regulations, workers rights, environmental concerns..etc..'

'..Wait, why are we paying china for all of our stuff now!! China is so terrible for this huge imbalance, they are taking advantage of us!'

Smooth move geniuses.

Yep, tho it's not exactly that simple. Consumers really wanted cheaper stuff.

And, it's not like we (North America) didn't do something similar right after WW2 when we were virtually the only undamaged manufacturing game in the world. It's how we got a leg up on everyone else.
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Re: Trade Imbalance

Postby bball » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:15 am

Supa Dexta wrote:'Let's move all manufacturing and technology (that made you the world power house) to china so we can buy cheap sh*t and not have to deal with regulations, workers rights, environmental concerns..etc..'

'..Wait, why are we paying china for all of our stuff now!! China is so terrible for this huge imbalance, they are taking advantage of us!'

Smooth move geniuses.


Clarity! Very accurate post. Reap what we sow.
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