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Re: Mineral blocks

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:16 pm

I was thinking that but didn't know how to put it down in print!!! Thanks TexasB
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Re: Mineral blocks

Post by kilroy60 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:48 pm

TexasBred wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:26 am
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Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:33 am
I would think that the reason they consume the Vita Ferm heavier is that are taking in the mineral that they need. Trace mineral blocks and sulfer blocks are all 97% salt. Salt is what cows crave and they will bypass minerals to take in the salt. A good loose mineral has salt included which is why there is no need to put out salt blocks with a good loose mineral.
It depends on the formulation. Some minerals are purposely formulated with NO salt to encourage the cattle to get their salt needs from straight salt rather than consuming mineral to meet their salt needs. Depending on the level of inclusion salt may encourage consumption OR limit it.
Good point - so best is always to read ingredient tag on the bag to be sure. I know Purina Wind & Rain loose mineral has salt added. The mineral tubs do not have salt added and if you use these then salt is needed. I'm a firm believer in the Purina R&W. I'm sure there are other good minerals available. I would just not go cheap on this part of the business.

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Re: Mineral blocks

Post by TexasBred » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:52 am

kilroy60 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:48 pm
TexasBred wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:26 am
kilroy60 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:33 am
I would think that the reason they consume the Vita Ferm heavier is that are taking in the mineral that they need. Trace mineral blocks and sulfer blocks are all 97% salt. Salt is what cows crave and they will bypass minerals to take in the salt. A good loose mineral has salt included which is why there is no need to put out salt blocks with a good loose mineral.
It depends on the formulation. Some minerals are purposely formulated with NO salt to encourage the cattle to get their salt needs from straight salt rather than consuming mineral to meet their salt needs. Depending on the level of inclusion salt may encourage consumption OR limit it.
Good point - so best is always to read ingredient tag on the bag to be sure. I know Purina Wind & Rain loose mineral has salt added. The mineral tubs do not have salt added and if you use these then salt is needed. I'm a firm believer in the Purina R&W. I'm sure there are other good minerals available. I would just not go cheap on this part of the business.
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Re: Mineral blocks

Post by kilroy60 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:30 pm

TexasBred wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:52 am
kilroy60 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:48 pm
TexasBred wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:26 am

It depends on the formulation. Some minerals are purposely formulated with NO salt to encourage the cattle to get their salt needs from straight salt rather than consuming mineral to meet their salt needs. Depending on the level of inclusion salt may encourage consumption OR limit it.
Good point - so best is always to read ingredient tag on the bag to be sure. I know Purina Wind & Rain loose mineral has salt added. The mineral tubs do not have salt added and if you use these then salt is needed. I'm a firm believer in the Purina R&W. I'm sure there are other good minerals available. I would just not go cheap on this part of the business.
My personal preference is Purina’s Wind and Rain® All Season Minerals 7 CP AV4
Our preference is Purina's Wind and Rain Hi-Mag. Keep it out all year.

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Re: Mineral blocks

Post by cjmc » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:28 pm

JMJ Farms wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:54 pm
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Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:57 pm
That's a good article, thanks. Mineral supplementation is a high cost for us, be interesting to know if they can check levels through a blood preg check sample.
I’d be interested in knowing the best/easiest/cheapest (probably no such thing as all three in one) way to test for mineral deficiency as well, and have a mineral custom mixed to meet my cows needs. Good chance it would be very enlightening.
Using this link can give you a very general idea of what mineral levels are like in your area. It's free so I would say it's the cheapest way :D. Not all mineral antagonists are measured though so even if it shows there is enough of mineral X something not measured (like molybdenum) might be tying it up, causing a deficiency. Liver tests are the only way to know for sure so it's the best, but you need to test 5-10% of the heard so it can get really expensive. But you'll get really good data back showing what you are over supplementing & what Is close to deficit. If a guy is dead set on getting the best deal possible you could develop your own mineral & bid it out to feed companies.

Click on any of the maps then your state & your county. It will give you levels for each tested mineral in your county.

https://mrdata.usgs.gov/geochem/doc/ave ... tydata.htm

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