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Re: Mineral program

Postby reeler » Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:09 pm

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Rniemann wrote:Maybe my estimation is off. I through a number out. It's way more expensive than the $5 mineral block at farm store.


We run around 115 momma cows and keep 6-10 bulls of various stages of development around and spend around $4-5K a year on mineral.

I need to keep free choice salt out as well to cut down on the mineral consumption but I've barely mastered the art of keeping mineral out.

Just my :2cents: - my neighbor mixes salt in with his mineral, & I've been doing the same. Plus, keeps a salt block out also. We both use seasonal mineral from local co-op.

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Re: Mineral program

Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:52 am

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Rniemann wrote:Maybe my estimation is off. I through a number out. It's way more expensive than the $5 mineral block at farm store.


We run around 115 momma cows and keep 6-10 bulls of various stages of development around and spend around $4-5K a year on mineral.

I need to keep free choice salt out as well to cut down on the mineral consumption but I've barely mastered the art of keeping mineral out.

Just my :2cents: - my neighbor mixes salt in with his mineral, & I've been doing the same. Plus, keeps a salt block out also. We both use seasonal mineral from local co-op.


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Re: Mineral program

Postby J&D Cattle » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:02 am

I never cared for the mineral that you also had to keep salt out with. I like the Purina Wind & Rain we use for many reasons but also because you don't have to feed salt separately. We use their 7.5 complete, high mag, and medicated fly control at the appropriate times of the year. I found their consumption rates to also be more accurate than several brands I've used. It's not cheap but I don't skimp with my mineral program as the benefits far outweigh the costs.
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Re: Mineral program

Postby M-5 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:54 am

J&D Cattle wrote:I never cared for the mineral that you also had to keep salt out with. I like the Purina Wind & Rain we use for many reasons but also because you don't have to feed salt separately. We use their 7.5 complete, high mag, and medicated fly control at the appropriate times of the year. I found their consumption rates to also be more accurate than several brands I've used. It's not cheap but I don't skimp with my mineral program as the benefits far outweigh the costs.


mineral and salt are 2 different things , Most do both and there will be times when the salt is hit hard and other time the mineral will be hit. The salt is cheap and should be used separately and in conjunction with any good mineral IMO (which has no value to anyone but me)
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Re: Mineral program

Postby TexasBred » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:38 am

J&D Cattle wrote:I never cared for the mineral that you also had to keep salt out with. I like the Purina Wind & Rain we use for many reasons but also because you don't have to feed salt separately. We use their 7.5 complete, high mag, and medicated fly control at the appropriate times of the year. I found their consumption rates to also be more accurate than several brands I've used. It's not cheap but I don't skimp with my mineral program as the benefits far outweigh the costs.

Unfortunately you don't always see the benefits immediately but you definitely will see the consequences of NOT having a good mineral program pretty quickly.
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Re: Mineral program

Postby J&D Cattle » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:48 am

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J&D Cattle wrote:I never cared for the mineral that you also had to keep salt out with. I like the Purina Wind & Rain we use for many reasons but also because you don't have to feed salt separately. We use their 7.5 complete, high mag, and medicated fly control at the appropriate times of the year. I found their consumption rates to also be more accurate than several brands I've used. It's not cheap but I don't skimp with my mineral program as the benefits far outweigh the costs.

Unfortunately you don't always see the benefits immediately but you definitely will see the consequences of NOT having a good mineral program pretty quickly.


You got that right TB, some benefits are hard to measure or pin point specifically. I can say that I haven't had to pay attention to flies at all in 3 years with their fly control mineral. The time and money spent with that alone were well worth it. Others in my area have lost several to anaplasmosis too and we haven't had any issues and will continue to use their medicated mineral.
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Re: Mineral program

Postby reeler » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:30 pm

J&D Cattle wrote:I never cared for the mineral that you also had to keep salt out with. I like the Purina Wind & Rain we use for many reasons but also because you don't have to feed salt separately. We use their 7.5 complete, high mag, and medicated fly control at the appropriate times of the year. I found their consumption rates to also be more accurate than several brands I've used. It's not cheap but I don't skimp with my mineral program as the benefits far outweigh the costs.

Appreciate your input. I use medicated fly control also, & getting ready to purchase.Do I need a prescription from vet to buy it since the new laws are in effect?

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Re: Mineral program

Postby Son of Butch » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:10 am

Freakin' enhanced income program for Vets... got billed by vet last month for phone call our feed man placed to our
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Re: Mineral program

Postby J&D Cattle » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:10 am

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J&D Cattle wrote:I never cared for the mineral that you also had to keep salt out with. I like the Purina Wind & Rain we use for many reasons but also because you don't have to feed salt separately. We use their 7.5 complete, high mag, and medicated fly control at the appropriate times of the year. I found their consumption rates to also be more accurate than several brands I've used. It's not cheap but I don't skimp with my mineral program as the benefits far outweigh the costs.

Appreciate your input. I use medicated fly control also, & getting ready to purchase.Do I need a prescription from vet to buy it since the new laws are in effect?


I was told yes. My vet is supposed to come out this week or next to do my farm visit and will then write the scrip. With as warm as it's been I'll probably start on it sooner than normal.
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Re: Mineral program

Postby TexasBred » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:24 am

IGR is not an antibiotic so no script necessary. If you buy a mineral with CTC in it most likely you will need script from the vet.
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Re: Mineral program

Postby JSCATTLE » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:44 am

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J&D Cattle wrote:I never cared for the mineral that you also had to keep salt out with. I like the Purina Wind & Rain we use for many reasons but also because you don't have to feed salt separately. We use their 7.5 complete, high mag, and medicated fly control at the appropriate times of the year. I found their consumption rates to also be more accurate than several brands I've used. It's not cheap but I don't skimp with my mineral program as the benefits far outweigh the costs.

Appreciate your input. I use medicated fly control also, & getting ready to purchase.Do I need a prescription from vet to buy it since the new laws are in effect?


I was told yes. My vet is supposed to come out this week or next to do my farm visit and will then write the scrip. With as warm as it's been I'll probably start on it sooner than normal.

Sounds like the vet wants to make money off you . Igr isn't an antibiotic. You can buy wind and rain with fly control at tractor supply .
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Re: Mineral program

Postby J&D Cattle » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:29 pm

TexasBred wrote:IGR is not an antibiotic so no script necessary. If you buy a mineral with CTC in it most likely you will need script from the vet.


Yes, their medicated fly control 5600 requires a VFD. We buy the 5600 to aide in the prevention of anaplasmosis.
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Re: Mineral program

Postby J&D Cattle » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:31 pm

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reeler wrote:Appreciate your input. I use medicated fly control also, & getting ready to purchase.Do I need a prescription from vet to buy it since the new laws are in effect?


I was told yes. My vet is supposed to come out this week or next to do my farm visit and will then write the scrip. With as warm as it's been I'll probably start on it sooner than normal.

Sounds like the vet wants to make money off you . Igr isn't an antibiotic. You can buy wind and rain with fly control at tractor supply .


VFD is required for their medicated 5600 fly control mineral. Fly control by itself does not require a VFD.
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Re: Mineral program

Postby JSCATTLE » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:46 pm

J&D Cattle wrote:
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J&D Cattle wrote:
I was told yes. My vet is supposed to come out this week or next to do my farm visit and will then write the scrip. With as warm as it's been I'll probably start on it sooner than normal.

Sounds like the vet wants to make money off you . Igr isn't an antibiotic. You can buy wind and rain with fly control at tractor supply .


VFD is required for their medicated 5600 fly control mineral. Fly control by itself does not require a VFD.

I don't think I've ever seeneed much less thought about feeding medicated mineral. I don't agree with feeding antibiotics to every animal.
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Re: Mineral program

Postby talltimber » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:52 pm

No problem with anaplasmosis there I assume then. Or pinkeye either?
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