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Castration question

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:31 am

My husband used to scalpel cut all our male calves (vs. band). After losing my husband, my nephew moved in with me. We band anything that we decide at birth will be a steer. But, I taught him how to castrate by cutting. I tail the calf, he castrates.
Hubby always pulled down 1 testicle & cut the outside sheath & popped the testicle out and then either pulled the cord til it snapped (young ones) or used the emasculators to crush & cut the cord.
Do you take the outside sheath off the testicle? I am not referring to the scrotum - bottom 1/3 of scrotum is cut off. I have seen on Vet TV shows that they just take the testicle out whole. What are your thoughts?
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Re: Castration question

Postby MRRherefords » Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:34 am

Personally, I band, but most that I know take the testicle out whole.
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Postby Fire Sweep Ranch » Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:46 am

This is how we do it, with a Newberry Knife

https://youtu.be/7kpaNQpeF7Q
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Re: Castration question

Postby True Grit Farms » Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:57 am

I use a pocket knife to cut the bottom of scrotum off, and pull - squeeze one nut out at a time, wrap the cord around my finger and pull the nut till the cord snaps. No or very little blood if you castrate on the dark of the moon.
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Re: Castration question

Postby Son of Butch » Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:55 am

True Grit Farms wrote:I use a pocket knife to cut the bottom of scrotum off, and pull - squeeze one nut out at a time, wrap the cord around my finger and pull the nut till the cord snaps. No or very little blood if you castrate on the dark of the moon.
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Re: Castration question

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True Grit Farms wrote:I use a pocket knife to cut the bottom of scrotum off, and pull - squeeze one nut out at a time, wrap the cord around my finger and pull the nut till the cord snaps. No or very little blood if you castrate on the dark of the moon.

x2, but with a scalpel. Plus, with any cord left hanging out of the scrotum, I put a little tension on it to stretch it out, abrade with the knife to sever it at the scrotum so it snaps back up in there, no clean cuts with a sharp knife on the cords. I don't want any cords hanging outside the healing bag.
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Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:19 pm

How big a calf can you do that? (pull the cord instead of crushing/cutting) Weight ? Great to hear you don't have to take that sheath off - just adds a lot of time to the process and I feel there is less swelling (and bleeding) if done quickly.
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Re: Castration question

Postby M-5 » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:21 pm

I use a hook scalpel same as others and I just pull everything out no matter the size
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Re: Castration question

Postby talltimber » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:27 pm

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:How big a calf can you do that? (pull the cord instead of crushing/cutting) Weight ? Great to hear you don't have to take that sheath off - just adds a lot of time to the process and I feel there is less swelling (and bleeding) if done quickly.


I'm not sure. I wouldn't want them to be too much bigger than 4-500 pounds myself. I am cutting mine when they are around 250-300 pounds or so. Some of the bigger ones are getting hard to pull by then, and I think if it's hard on me, it's got to be worse on them. Although I would hate to band any, I have heard of some folks buying bulls and banding them as big as 600 lbs. I am not experienced with them, but they say a clamp is the ticket on larger bulls. Idk about the success rate though.
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Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:31 pm

talltimber - yes, agree. We band up to about 250-300#. Depending if he can "fit" them into the little band. I was thinking over 4-500# they might not be very easy to "snap". Thanks all, for this info.
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Re: Castration question

Postby talltimber » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:36 pm

Well, banding, you could go with a calicrate or the XL bander. I was thinking, cutting them, how big would it be ok?

I'm sure there are guys here who have cut, banded, clamped about any size you would want to talk about.
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Re: Castration question

Postby M-5 » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:47 pm

Ive cut bulls up to nearly a yr old , big enough that one nut was a meal
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Re: Castration question

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:54 pm

We have cut bulls up to 7-800#. I only have the one size bander for small calves. There is going to be lots of different opinions on here, but all the research shows any method for newborn is very little stress. As they get older, cutting is less stress than banding. I know if I HAD to lose a finger, I would want them to lop it off quickly, instead of letting it die a slow death with a band. ouch
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Re: Castration question

Postby callmefence » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:44 pm

talltimber wrote:
True Grit Farms wrote:I use a pocket knife to cut the bottom of scrotum off, and pull - squeeze one nut out at a time, wrap the cord around my finger and pull the nut till the cord snaps. No or very little blood if you castrate on the dark of the moon.

x2, but with a scalpel. Plus, with any cord left hanging out of the scrotum, I put a little tension on it to stretch it out, abrade with the knife to sever it at the scrotum so it snaps back up in there, no clean cuts with a sharp knife on the cords. I don't want any cords hanging outside the healing bag.


I use a sharp blade on my pocket knife or scalpel to cut the bottom half of the sack. Nut in my hand cord between my index finger and middle finger and pull like he'll. On a big calf I use the dull blade(. The one I use to scrape my boots off before going in the house) to scrape the sheath up until it gives. To sharp a blade here can cause a mess.
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Re: Castration question

Postby Son of Butch » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:13 pm

M-5 wrote:I use a hook scalpel same as others and I just pull everything out no matter the size

Yup. I view hanging cords as a hi-way for bacterial infections and with slow pulling pressure remove till it snaps.
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