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Over Conditioning

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:20 am
by Bright Raven
I moved 2 over-conditioned cows to a retaining pen near the handling facility. It is perhaps a futile effort because the retaining pen has good grass. The pen is perhaps an acre and a half.

This cow is due in late October to HPF Optimizer. She is one of the most over conditioned. I am hoping the limited access to forage will limit calf growth. Given the grass in the pen, I am debating if she would be better left in the pasture where she would get more exercise.
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Re: Over Conditioning

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:32 am
by M-5
she will be fine as long as you keep that sack closed

Re: Over Conditioning

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:35 am
by Bright Raven
M-5 wrote:she will be fine as long as you keep that sack closed


Would you leave her out with the herd or keep her in the pen until calving?

Re: Over Conditioning

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:40 am
by M-5
Bright Raven wrote:
M-5 wrote:she will be fine as long as you keep that sack closed


Would you leave her out with the herd or keep her in the pen until calving?


personally , I have never penned one to calve. I don't know why anyone would do that unless you are expecting complications. Your there all the time so keeping an eye on her should not be an issue. and I would think she would be more comfortable with her own kind.

Re: Over Conditioning

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:46 am
by Bright Raven
M-5 wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
M-5 wrote:she will be fine as long as you keep that sack closed


Would you leave her out with the herd or keep her in the pen until calving?


personally , I have never penned one to calve. I don't know why anyone would do that unless you are expecting complications. Your there all the time so keeping an eye on her should not be an issue. and I would think she would be more comfortable with her own kind.


Thanks. I was thinking in terms of limiting access to grass. My pastures have never been this good. We had 7 1/2 inches of rain in July. I clip my pasture on a regular basis so the growth stays fresh. The diversity is excellent: grasses and legumes.

Re: Over Conditioning

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:05 am
by M-5
Ron, I suspect the grass is not the issue , You have admitted several time that the girls get treats everyday. Close up the feed sack and let them do what comes natural. Just imagine you yourself eating 3 meals a day and then every night sitting down and eating a 1/2gal of bluebell. wouldn't take long to be "overconditioned"

Re: Over Conditioning

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:35 am
by Bright Raven
M-5 wrote:Ron, I suspect the grass is not the issue , You have admitted several time that the girls get treats everyday. Close up the feed sack and let them do what comes natural. Just imagine you yourself eating 3 meals a day and then every night sitting down and eating a 1/2gal of bluebell. wouldn't take long to be "overconditioned"


I did supplement feeding this winter when they were on hay. They have not had a coffee cup of feed since March 1. But they did come out of winter over-conditioned. It is obviously accumulating on them.

Re: Over Conditioning

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:35 am
by True Grit Farms
That's sure a nice problem to have. We finally have more grass than the half of the herd that I kept can eat.

Re: Over Conditioning

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:44 am
by Bright Raven
True Grit Farms wrote:That's sure a nice problem to have. We finally have more grass than the half of the herd that I kept can eat.


I am not complaining. I just left Lowes in Maysville. The lady who checked me out knows me. She ask about my cows while she was checking out the man in front of me. I was telling her I have never seen pasture this good at the first of August. The guy in front of me joined in. He said his pasture seems like it grows an inch a night. He said his cows are fat and slick.

It is weird. Pasture was slow in the spring and took off as summer came on. It has been generally hot but there have been several cold fronts that brought rain and cooled things off. I think that has accelerated grass and legume growth.

Re: Over Conditioning

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:03 am
by kentuckyguy
Same here bright raven. You are pretty close to me. Use to drive to spurlock station every day

Re: Over Conditioning

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:06 am
by Bright Raven
kentuckyguy wrote:Same here bright raven. You are pretty close to me. Use to drive to spurlock station every day


Where are you?

Re: Over Conditioning

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:27 am
by Son of Butch
I'd leave the pair penned for a few weeks to keep it mowed and you can always move 'em back with the others.
Maybe buy a pair of feeder steers, since you've got the extra grass for selling some grass fed freezer beef.

Re: Over Conditioning

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:37 am
by Dogs and Cows
Isn't Kentucky known for good grass??? We have had no rain in a month...and the pastures are crunchy...I have lots of grass, it is just rank. I'd let her run with the others Ron.

Tim

Re: Over Conditioning

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:41 am
by kentuckyguy
Bright Raven wrote:
kentuckyguy wrote:Same here bright raven. You are pretty close to me. Use to drive to spurlock station every day


Where are you?


Willard about 20 min from Grayson

Re: Over Conditioning

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:01 am
by Bright Raven
kentuckyguy wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
kentuckyguy wrote:Same here bright raven. You are pretty close to me. Use to drive to spurlock station every day


Where are you?


Willard about 20 min from Grayson


You are real close to Ringer.