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Mineral analysis part two.

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:21 am
by True Grit Farms
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A picture is worth a thousand words. Thanks for the patience TB. The over consumption and salt part isn't ideal..or is it?

Re: Mineral analysis part two.

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:36 am
by TexasBred
True Grit Farms wrote:Image

A picture is worth a thousand words. Thanks for the patience TB. The over consumption and salt part isn't ideal..or is it?

Dang you make it hard for an old man to read that fine print. lolol........nothing wrong with it at all. Compares closely to what I use as far as the guarantees. It contains your typical oxides and sulfates but also has some organic minerals in the form of "proteinates" which is good. Also has several strains of yeast in it which probably are not included in a sufficient amount to be "great" but certainly doesn't hurt to have them in the mix. If it's not grossly overpriced I see no reason to change.

Re: Mineral analysis part two.

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:04 am
by greybeard
I'll see if I can help ya out...this should be clearer anyway if you click on it...dunno about how it will look on a phone.



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Re: Mineral analysis part two.

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:29 pm
by pdfangus
oK WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CHELATE AND A PROTEINATE ?

Re: Mineral analysis part two.

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:29 pm
by TexasBred
pdfangus wrote:oK WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CHELATE AND A PROTEINATE ?

A proteinate is actually one type of chelate. There are three types of chelates commonly used in the feed industry. Listed here in decending order of their effectivness in the diet:

Amino acid 'chelates’ typically use synthetic amino acids to deliver a chelated trace element (like zinc).

Proteinated chelates commonly are made using natural proteins to deliver chelated trace elements.

Polysaccharide chelates are natural carbohydrates bound to a trace element to deliver the chelated trace element.

Re: Mineral analysis part two.

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:47 pm
by TennesseeTuxedo
TexasBred wrote:
pdfangus wrote:oK WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CHELATE AND A PROTEINATE ?

A proteinate is actually one type of chelate. There are three types of chelates commonly used in the feed industry. Listed here in decending order of their effectivness in the diet:

Amino acid 'chelates’ typically use synthetic amino acids to deliver a chelated trace element (like zinc).

Proteinated chelates commonly are made using natural proteins to deliver chelated trace elements.

Polysaccharide chelates are natural carbohydrates bound to a trace element to deliver the chelated trace element.


Do you Google that stuff or carry it around in your head?

Re: Mineral analysis part two.

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:05 pm
by M-5
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
TexasBred wrote:
pdfangus wrote:oK WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CHELATE AND A PROTEINATE ?

A proteinate is actually one type of chelate. There are three types of chelates commonly used in the feed industry. Listed here in decending order of their effectivness in the diet:

Amino acid 'chelates’ typically use synthetic amino acids to deliver a chelated trace element (like zinc).

Proteinated chelates commonly are made using natural proteins to deliver chelated trace elements.

Polysaccharide chelates are natural carbohydrates bound to a trace element to deliver the chelated trace element.


Do you Google that stuff or carry it around in your head?


Don't you start no shyt won't be no shyt . and you can put that in your signature line.

Re: Mineral analysis part two.

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:00 am
by pdfangus
Thanks TB.....it has been a while since I reviewed any of that stuff.

as you list the three chelates it seems to me that the order of effectiveness is probably related to their stability.??

Re: Mineral analysis part two.

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:24 am
by TexasBred
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
TexasBred wrote:
pdfangus wrote:oK WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CHELATE AND A PROTEINATE ?

A proteinate is actually one type of chelate. There are three types of chelates commonly used in the feed industry. Listed here in decending order of their effectivness in the diet:

Amino acid 'chelates’ typically use synthetic amino acids to deliver a chelated trace element (like zinc).

Proteinated chelates commonly are made using natural proteins to deliver chelated trace elements.

Polysaccharide chelates are natural carbohydrates bound to a trace element to deliver the chelated trace element.


Do you Google that stuff or carry it around in your head?

Well I've actually learned it over many years but sometimes it's more easily understood if I simply look up the most simple explanation. If I said it, it would fill up a half page and we would all still be confused.

Re: Mineral analysis part two.

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:59 am
by TennesseeTuxedo
TexasBred wrote:
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
TexasBred wrote:A proteinate is actually one type of chelate. There are three types of chelates commonly used in the feed industry. Listed here in decending order of their effectivness in the diet:

Amino acid 'chelates’ typically use synthetic amino acids to deliver a chelated trace element (like zinc).

Proteinated chelates commonly are made using natural proteins to deliver chelated trace elements.

Polysaccharide chelates are natural carbohydrates bound to a trace element to deliver the chelated trace element.


Do you Google that stuff or carry it around in your head?

Well I've actually learned it over many years but sometimes it's more easily understood if I simply look up the most simple explanation. If I said it, it would fill up a half page and we would all still be confused.


You are a walking Encyclopedia. The youngsters here will have to go look that up.

Re: Mineral analysis part two.

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:35 pm
by True Grit Farms
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
TexasBred wrote:
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
Do you Google that stuff or carry it around in your head?

Well I've actually learned it over many years but sometimes it's more easily understood if I simply look up the most simple explanation. If I said it, it would fill up a half page and we would all still be confused.


You are a walking Encyclopedia. The youngsters here will have to go look that up.


TB, even puts it out there where everyone should be able to understand what he says. Looking up those big fancy words some folks use is a waste of time.

Re: Mineral analysis part two.

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:09 pm
by greybeard
"Looking up those big fancy words some folks use is a waste of time."

Heck, I thought chelated was a big fancy word the first time I saw TB use it......

Re: Mineral analysis part two.

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:33 pm
by TexasBred
True Grit Farms wrote:
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
TexasBred wrote:Well I've actually learned it over many years but sometimes it's more easily understood if I simply look up the most simple explanation. If I said it, it would fill up a half page and we would all still be confused.


You are a walking Encyclopedia. The youngsters here will have to go look that up.


TB, even puts it out there where everyone should be able to understand what he says. Looking up those big fancy words some folks use is a waste of time.

TGF, I R Simple" so simple words come much easier. Usually no more than two syllables if possible.

Re: Mineral analysis part two.

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:59 pm
by TexasBred
pdfangus wrote:Thanks TB.....it has been a while since I reviewed any of that stuff.

as you list the three chelates it seems to me that the order of effectiveness is probably related to their stability.??

True or the compounds they attach to can affect how well they are absorbed and how available they are for use in the body.