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wasps nest in mineral feeders

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:48 am
by dieselbeef
got stung twice soon as I touched the feeder..just went to check minerals and salt...

I don't do well with wasps bees..i swell like a hot air balloon..epeipen on the mule at all times

anyone else deal with this...kinda explains why it wasn't getting used much...must be a big nest I saw at least 20 flying as I was running away

Re: wasps nest in mineral feeders

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:18 am
by Bright Raven
Yes sir. Thanks for bringing this forward. I have 2 barrel feeders on the back 30. I have had to tear down wasps nests all summer. Makes me wonder if it deters the cows from using them.

Re: wasps nest in mineral feeders

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:20 am
by MRRherefords
Had that problem with one of my creep feeders this year. Finally sprayed them after killing a few with my hat and a tennis racket.

Re: wasps nest in mineral feeders

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:42 am
by kd4au
Yes, I have wasp nest in my barrel mineral feeders. I spray them. Usually I only have trouble when I rotate pastures and the cows or not using the feeder for a few days. My cows eat a lot of mineral so I'm putting mineral in them on a regular basis.

Re: wasps nest in mineral feeders

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:05 am
by dieselbeef
the spray don't keep the cows from using it..that why I didn't hose it down..its got a lot in it so I didn't wanna ruin it with spray

Re: wasps nest in mineral feeders

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:10 am
by TN Cattle Man
Barrel feeders will attract wasps just due to the fact that there is such a large protected area of unused area in the barrel. We used to see this problem in our "shed" style of mineral feeders as well. Changing all feeders over to the ground style mineral feeders (the ones with the big rubber flaps on them) will solve this issue.

Re: wasps nest in mineral feeders

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:23 am
by Bright Raven
TN Cattle Man wrote:Barrel feeders will attract wasps just due to the fact that there is such a large protected area of unused area in the barrel. We used to see this problem in our "shed" style of mineral feeders as well. Changing all feeders over to the ground style mineral feeders (the ones with the big rubber flaps on them) will solve this issue.


Brian,

I started out with the ground feeders with the flaps. I still use one in the facility holding pen. I now like the feeders with an above ground trough and low metal roof. Mine is made by the Amish and is constructed out of heavy ork

Re: wasps nest in mineral feeders

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:30 am
by kd4au
dieselbeef wrote:the spray don't keep the cows from using it..that why I didn't hose it down..its got a lot in it so I didn't wanna ruin it with spray

Not sure if I ever sprayed with min. in the feeder and I don't spray but enough to get them. I have knocked them down with a stick and they usually leave if I have a lot of min. that I don't want to waste.

Re: wasps nest in mineral feeders

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:32 am
by Bright Raven
kd4au wrote:
dieselbeef wrote:the spray don't keep the cows from using it..that why I didn't hose it down..its got a lot in it so I didn't wanna ruin it with spray

Not sure if I ever sprayed with min. in the feeder and I don't spray but enough to get them. I have knocked them down with a stick and they usually leave if I have a lot of min. that I don't want to waste.


That is what I do. I put on my welding gloves and mash the nest and wasps. I would not spray over my minerals.

Re: wasps nest in mineral feeders

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:47 am
by cowgirl8
You can just throw water with a tad of Dawn soap on them and it kills almost instantly.. We had a nest above our sawmill that we didn't notice (It was the size of a dinner plate, lol doh). We kept having wasp flying around our face. Started on a saw pass and I looked up and saw this nest and all the wasp looking at us. It was high up, about 15 ft so I couldn't throw soapy water at them. We used a spray made for wasp and it did almost nothing at first other than make them fly and took forever to kill the first one. We kept having to spray it and it made the sawmill area unusable for a while. I looked in one of our mineral feeders yesterday and there is a giant nest in there, but i'll use soapy water so that I kill them fast...I'll fill a coffee can up with warm water(warm water helps some but isn't that important)..i'll just squirt in a tad of dawn..It works amazing fast, its all I use except for the ones high up...

Re: wasps nest in mineral feeders

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:52 am
by Bright Raven
cowgirl8 wrote:You can just throw water with a tad of Dawn soap on them and it kills almost instantly.. We had a nest above our sawmill that we didn't notice (It was the size of a dinner plate, lol doh). We kept having wasp flying around our face. Started on a saw pass and I looked up and saw this nest and all the wasp looking at us. It was high up, about 15 ft so I couldn't throw soapy water at them. We used a spray made for wasp and it did almost nothing at first other than make them fly and took forever to kill the first one. We kept having to spray it and it made the sawmill area unusable for a while. I looked in one of our mineral feeders yesterday and there is a giant nest in there, but i'll use soapy water so that I kill them fast...I'll fill a coffee can up with warm water(warm water helps some but isn't that important)..i'll just squirt in a tad of dawn..It works amazing fast, its all I use except for the ones high up...


Agree. Oils or detergents block the small tubes called spiracles on each abdominal segment that exchanges air. Thus, they quickly suffocate.

Re: wasps nest in mineral feeders

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:56 am
by cowgirl8
Bright Raven wrote:
cowgirl8 wrote:You can just throw water with a tad of Dawn soap on them and it kills almost instantly.. We had a nest above our sawmill that we didn't notice (It was the size of a dinner plate, lol doh). We kept having wasp flying around our face. Started on a saw pass and I looked up and saw this nest and all the wasp looking at us. It was high up, about 15 ft so I couldn't throw soapy water at them. We used a spray made for wasp and it did almost nothing at first other than make them fly and took forever to kill the first one. We kept having to spray it and it made the sawmill area unusable for a while. I looked in one of our mineral feeders yesterday and there is a giant nest in there, but i'll use soapy water so that I kill them fast...I'll fill a coffee can up with warm water(warm water helps some but isn't that important)..i'll just squirt in a tad of dawn..It works amazing fast, its all I use except for the ones high up...


Agree. Oils or detergents block the small tubes called spiracles on each abdominal segment that exchanges air. Thus, they quickly suffocate.

It takes so little too. I had a old guy long ago tell me they used their old dish water to kill them..now that's being frugal...

Re: wasps nest in mineral feeders

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:59 am
by True Grit Farms
Bright Raven wrote:
kd4au wrote:
dieselbeef wrote:the spray don't keep the cows from using it..that why I didn't hose it down..its got a lot in it so I didn't wanna ruin it with spray

Not sure if I ever sprayed with min. in the feeder and I don't spray but enough to get them. I have knocked them down with a stick and they usually leave if I have a lot of min. that I don't want to waste.


That is what I do. I put on my welding gloves and mash the nest and wasps. I would not spray over my minerals.


Why? A little bit of wasp spray isn't going to hurt a cow. If it's approved for over the counter usage it can't be harmful. Starting fluid - brake kleen will kill wasp better than most sprays.

Re: wasps nest in mineral feeders

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:06 am
by skyhightree1
I use a sprayer with permethrin and talstar in it just one lil shot and it takes care of them I would rather have to dump some mineral than getting ate up by them. It hits them they cant fly and fall start crawling then die.

Re: wasps nest in mineral feeders

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:09 am
by cowgirl8
Why use anything other than soap?