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Thiamin Deficiency

Postby Bestoutwest » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:44 am

I've got a friend with a steer that is lethargic, won't move to eat or drink, and is seizing (he just sent me a video). The vet thinks it's a thiamin deficiency. He gave a shot, and they're going to do a regiment of shots here in the next few days. Has anyone heard of this? Will the steer come of out it or is this a "start digging a hole" type of deal?

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Re: Thiamin Deficiency

Postby TexasBred » Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:25 pm

Bestoutwest wrote:I've got a friend with a steer that is lethargic, won't move to eat or drink, and is seizing (he just sent me a video). The vet thinks it's a thiamin deficiency. He gave a shot, and they're going to do a regiment of shots here in the next few days. Has anyone heard of this? Will the steer come of out it or is this a "start digging a hole" type of deal?

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What had the steer been eating?? Most likely grain and not enough roughage. If so then yes it could be a thiamine deficiency.
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Re: Thiamin Deficiency

Postby Bestoutwest » Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:51 pm

I think he'd been eating some hay, grass and a bit of grain. He ended up dying.
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Re: Thiamin Deficiency

Postby wbvs58 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:03 pm

Polioencephalomalacia, yes they can recover with aggressive B1 treatment.

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Re: Thiamin Deficiency

Postby Workinonit Farm » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:49 pm

wbvs58 wrote:Polioencephalomalacia, yes they can recover with aggressive B1 treatment.

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Isn't that what sirloin or someone-or-other used to post about? Or am I thinking about someone else and some other "polio...." issue? :?
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Re: Thiamin Deficiency

Postby Nesikep » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:49 pm

That sucks!

Where's Sir Loin when you need him!

If they have a number of animals it may be wise to give them some preventative medicine at this point, and to monitor sulfur in the water and feed?
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Re: Thiamin Deficiency

Postby Nesikep » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:50 pm

Workinonit Farm wrote:
wbvs58 wrote:Polioencephalomalacia, yes they can recover with aggressive B1 treatment.

Ken


Isn't that what sirloin or someone-or-other used to post about? Or am I thinking about someone else and some other "polio...." issue? :?

Yes, except he made it sound like it was a bacterial or viral disease and didn't seem to care to differentiate PEM from Polio known in humans, they're utterly different diseases
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Re: Thiamin Deficiency

Postby Workinonit Farm » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:52 pm

Nesikep wrote:
Workinonit Farm wrote:
wbvs58 wrote:Polioencephalomalacia, yes they can recover with aggressive B1 treatment.

Ken


Isn't that what sirloin or someone-or-other used to post about? Or am I thinking about someone else and some other "polio...." issue? :?

Yes, except he made it sound like it was a bacterial or viral disease and didn't seem to care to differentiate PEM from Polio known in humans, they're utterly different diseases


Yes, they are two very different things.

Thanks Nesi, good to know my memory is still okay. ;-)
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Re: Thiamin Deficiency

Postby Nesikep » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:00 pm

Good for you, not for me.. I had to look it up due to a brain fart! I knew if I searched for Polioencephalomalacia I'd find it though... Then there was NC Liz with more of the same.. and Flounder that manages to stick around
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Postby Workinonit Farm » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:47 pm

Nesikep wrote:Good for you, not for me.. I had to look it up due to a brain fart! I knew if I searched for Polioencephalomalacia I'd find it though... Then there was NC Liz with more of the same.. and Flounder that manages to stick around


Oh Lord! I had forgotten about NC Liz! Awful!!! I guess that's why I had blocked/forgotten that poster!
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Re: Thiamin Deficiency

Postby Cross-7 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:55 pm

Branguscowgirl had a very similar experience.
It turned out to be a selenium deficiency
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Re: Thiamin Deficiency

Postby Nesikep » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:04 pm

If there's any suspicion of mineral imbalances, I'd definitely recommend a blood panel on them... way better than shooting in the dark.
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Re: Thiamin Deficiency

Postby Workinonit Farm » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:23 am

Nesikep wrote:If there's any suspicion of mineral imbalances, I'd definitely recommend a blood panel on them... way better than shooting in the dark.


I would certainly be worth the few dollars it will cost. Not very expensive at all.
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