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Coccidia Vaccine

Postby Bright Raven » Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:52 am

I think it was Silver or gcreekrch who made a comment about vaccinating against coccidia.

I cannot find the reference, but someone mentioned it in the last couple days.

Vaccines for protozoan parasites have low efficacy. Who is using a vaccine for coccidia? What are you using? And do you think it has been effective in your operation?
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Re: Coccidia Vaccine

Postby True Grit Farms » Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:59 am

Bright Raven wrote:I think it was Silver or gcreekrch who made a comment about vaccinating against coccidia.

I cannot find the reference, but someone mentioned it in the last couple days.

Vaccines for protozoan parasites have low efficacy. Who is using a vaccine for coccidia? What are you using? And do you think it has been effective in your operation?
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Not me. Is the vaccine available in a MLV and killed variety?
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Re: Coccidia Vaccine

Postby Bright Raven » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:02 am

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Bright Raven wrote:I think it was Silver or gcreekrch who made a comment about vaccinating against coccidia.

I cannot find the reference, but someone mentioned it in the last couple days.

Vaccines for protozoan parasites have low efficacy. Who is using a vaccine for coccidia? What are you using? And do you think it has been effective in your operation?
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Not me. Is the vaccine available in a MLV and killed variety?


I don't think they prepare live protozoan vaccine. So killed or attenuated, I suspect. I am not aware they make a coccidia vaccine.
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Re: Coccidia Vaccine

Postby Silver » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:34 am

Baycox (toltrazuril). Given orally at birth.
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Postby Bright Raven » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:08 pm

Silver wrote:Baycox (toltrazuril). Given orally at birth.


I use corid to drench with or granulated amprolium to mix in dry feed. Baycox is a treatment.

Toltrazuril is a coccidiostat. It is not a vaccine. However, it helps control coccidia in advance of them getting it. AND. Does not appear to be available over on our side of the border.
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Re: Coccidia Vaccine

Postby Silver » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:17 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
Silver wrote:Baycox (toltrazuril). Given orally at birth.


I use corid to drench with or granulated amprolium to mix in dry feed. Baycox is a treatment.

Toltrazuril is a coccidiostat. It is not a vaccine. However, it helps control coccidia in advance of them getting it. AND. Does not appear to be available over on our side of the border.


Please forgive my misuse of the term "vaccination". It does seem to prevent clinical coccidiosis in calves. No problems with cocci since we have been using it.
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Re: Coccidia Vaccine

Postby Bright Raven » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:44 pm

Silver wrote:
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Silver wrote:Baycox (toltrazuril). Given orally at birth.


I use corid to drench with or granulated amprolium to mix in dry feed. Baycox is a treatment.

Toltrazuril is a coccidiostat. It is not a vaccine. However, it helps control coccidia in advance of them getting it. AND. Does not appear to be available over on our side of the border.


Please forgive my misuse of the term "vaccination". It does seem to prevent clinical coccidiosis in calves. No problems with cocci since we have been using it.


You are forgiven my son. :santa:

I only calve in the fall. I get the first outbreak when cows congregate at the hay ring. When I see the first calf with brown diarrhea and foul odor, I drench each calf daily with a drenching syringe filled with the 5 day treatment mix prescribed on the corid bottle. Since I get the calves up each day for halter training, it is no extra chore.

Thanks. I appreciate the information.
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Re: Coccidia Vaccine

Postby Silver » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:48 pm

I get it in pill form. We tag and castrate immediately at birth so give the pill at that time.
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Re: Coccidia Vaccine

Postby gcreekrch » Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:34 am

Bright Raven wrote:I think it was Silver or gcreekrch who made a comment about vaccinating against coccidia.

I cannot find the reference, but someone mentioned it in the last couple days.

Vaccines for protozoan parasites have low efficacy. Who is using a vaccine for coccidia? What are you using? And do you think it has been effective in your operation?


Nope, As far as I am aware there is no such thing.

We add Rumensin to our mineral year round to control Cocci. We also add BioMoss to take out a host of other unwanted bugs.
We are in an area very high in Molybdenum so are feeding a close to toxic level of Copper. Herd health has been getting better and better as years go by.

We test feed every second year and make adjustments as needed.
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Re: Coccidia Vaccine

Postby farmerjan » Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:59 am

I have several nurse cows and buy calves off a few farms that I have found to have the same "bugs " as I do, so don't have problems with sick calves like I used to from some other places. Still, it would be nice to be able to try that toltrazuril that you have available as coccidia seems to be the biggest thing I have to deal with. An occasional pnuemonia with crazy weather, but very little other stuff. Right now I have 12 calves in the barn, on 4 cows and a 5th cow that one calf has taken a shine to but she has 3, 400 lb calves on her ready to wean. So with this kind of concentration, I usually see a couple of coccidia cases. Treated 3 this last month, but it didn't take much and they were up and going. A pill given when they first come on the farm would be a better way to go. Is there a brand name that I could research?
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Re: Coccidia Vaccine

Postby Bright Raven » Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:02 am

farmerjan wrote:I have several nurse cows and buy calves off a few farms that I have found to have the same "bugs " as I do, so don't have problems with sick calves like I used to from some other places. Still, it would be nice to be able to try that toltrazuril that you have available as coccidia seems to be the biggest thing I have to deal with. An occasional pnuemonia with crazy weather, but very little other stuff. Right now I have 12 calves in the barn, on 4 cows and a 5th cow that one calf has taken a shine to but she has 3, 400 lb calves on her ready to wean. So with this kind of concentration, I usually see a couple of coccidia cases. Treated 3 this last month, but it didn't take much and they were up and going. A pill given when they first come on the farm would be a better way to go. Is there a brand name that I could research?


Silver said it is 'Baycox (toltrazuril)'.

I googled it. Not available at Jeffers or Valley Vet. I am assuming it is not approved in the US. I agree. It sure would be convenient.
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Re: Coccidia Vaccine

Postby gcreekrch » Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:10 am

Silver wrote:I get it in pill form. We tag and castrate immediately at birth so give the pill at that time.


Good stuff too.
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Re: Coccidia Vaccine

Postby farmerjan » Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:25 am

Okay, so what do we have to do to get a direct line to the source??????
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Re: Coccidia Vaccine

Postby Bright Raven » Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:55 am

farmerjan wrote:Okay, so what do we have to do to get a direct line to the source??????


I was thinking it might slip by if you order on eBay. IDK.
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Re: Coccidia Vaccine

Postby Silver » Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:02 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
farmerjan wrote:Okay, so what do we have to do to get a direct line to the source??????


I was thinking it might slip by if you order on eBay. IDK.


That's how I got my Orphan No More. It's not available in Canada, but slipped right through from Amazon. You know, hypothetically, to actually do that would be wrong... :kid:
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