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Problem with a cows weight...

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:48 pm
by JSteim
We bought 3 cows from a dispersal sale in mid 2016. All are related.
A 6 year old cow, her 4 year old daughter and a 4 month old heifer calf out of the 4 year old.
The 6 year old and the calf arrived in good flesh and are in great shape now.
The 4 year old came in really thin and has gotten thinner in the months since we got her. Her calf was weaned off of her 8 to 12 weeks back and is big for her age. The 4 year old has been wormed twice in the last 6 months and has access to plenty of grazing, round bales of hay, minerals and is supplemented with cubes a few times a week. Seems like she has a good apetite - always comes up for hay and cubes and eats with the other cows.

I figured once her calf was off of her she would start to gain but she has not. Thoughts on what to try next?

Re: Problem with a cows weight...

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:56 pm
by wbvs58
How old was the calf when you weaned it? Would have to be older than 12mths.

Ken

Re: Problem with a cows weight...

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:06 pm
by JSteim
We were late moving her to the lease that we wean at . She was nine months at weaning so she has been off her mama for 8 weeks or so.

Re: Problem with a cows weight...

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:13 pm
by ALACOWMAN
mine will lose weight Weight right after weaning the calf,due to the stress of fretting over losing her baby. Some are worse than others about it..normal for them for the most part.. She ""should"" start regaining before long...but this is just my thought on the matter.

Re: Problem with a cows weight...

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:34 pm
by Waterway65
I even hate to suggest this. Is there any chance of Joni's disease?

Re: Problem with a cows weight...

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:09 pm
by MRRherefords
I think she will bounce back. Takes some of them a while.

Re: Problem with a cows weight...

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:18 pm
by artesianspringsfarm
JSteim wrote:We bought 3 cows from a dispersal sale in mid 2016. All are related.
A 6 year old cow, her 4 year old daughter and a 4 month old heifer calf out of the 4 year old.
The 6 year old and the calf arrived in good flesh and are in great shape now.
The 4 year old came in really thin and has gotten thinner in the months since we got her. Her calf was weaned off of her 8 to 12 weeks back and is big for her age. The 4 year old has been wormed twice in the last 6 months and has access to plenty of grazing, round bales of hay, minerals and is supplemented with cubes a few times a week. Seems like she has a good apetite - always comes up for hay and cubes and eats with the other cows.

I figured once her calf was off of her she would start to gain but she has not. Thoughts on what to try next?


Any chance its just genetics? Sometimes people arent used to seeing cows that put their all into their calf. I have some that do and some that clearly dont and people comment that the ones that really milk look too thin. I'm fine with it but others think that beef cows need fat pones.

Re: Problem with a cows weight...

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:21 pm
by artesianspringsfarm
Is she a lot thinner than this cow?


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Re: Problem with a cows weight...

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:44 pm
by JSteim
She is a lot thinner than that. Ribs and hip bones are really prominent.

Re: Problem with a cows weight...

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:54 pm
by MRRherefords
Does she seem to have a mouth/teeth issue? I know that can cause them to really drop off.

Re: Problem with a cows weight...

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:05 pm
by JSteim
not that i can see - after reading the responses i think we need to get a vet out to look at her

Re: Problem with a cows weight...

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:12 pm
by wbvs58
artesianspringsfarm wrote:
JSteim wrote:We bought 3 cows from a dispersal sale in mid 2016. All are related.
A 6 year old cow, her 4 year old daughter and a 4 month old heifer calf out of the 4 year old.
The 6 year old and the calf arrived in good flesh and are in great shape now.
The 4 year old came in really thin and has gotten thinner in the months since we got her. Her calf was weaned off of her 8 to 12 weeks back and is big for her age. The 4 year old has been wormed twice in the last 6 months and has access to plenty of grazing, round bales of hay, minerals and is supplemented with cubes a few times a week. Seems like she has a good apetite - always comes up for hay and cubes and eats with the other cows.

I figured once her calf was off of her she would start to gain but she has not. Thoughts on what to try next?


Any chance its just genetics? Sometimes people arent used to seeing cows that put their all into their calf. I have some that do and some that clearly dont and people comment that the ones that really milk look too thin. I'm fine with it but others think that beef cows need fat pones.


I like them to milk well as well and can handle the look of them doing a good job. I find I don't have any trouble with those heavy milkers breeding back. By the time they get to 5 or 6 their body condition seems to improve during a heavy lactation.

Ken

Re: Problem with a cows weight...

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:26 pm
by TCRanch
MRRherefords wrote:Does she seem to have a mouth/teeth issue? I know that can cause them to really drop off.

That's the first thing I check.

Re: Problem with a cows weight...

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:31 pm
by gcreekrch
wbvs58 wrote:
artesianspringsfarm wrote:
JSteim wrote:We bought 3 cows from a dispersal sale in mid 2016. All are related.
A 6 year old cow, her 4 year old daughter and a 4 month old heifer calf out of the 4 year old.
The 6 year old and the calf arrived in good flesh and are in great shape now.
The 4 year old came in really thin and has gotten thinner in the months since we got her. Her calf was weaned off of her 8 to 12 weeks back and is big for her age. The 4 year old has been wormed twice in the last 6 months and has access to plenty of grazing, round bales of hay, minerals and is supplemented with cubes a few times a week. Seems like she has a good apetite - always comes up for hay and cubes and eats with the other cows.

I figured once her calf was off of her she would start to gain but she has not. Thoughts on what to try next?


Any chance its just genetics? Sometimes people arent used to seeing cows that put their all into their calf. I have some that do and some that clearly dont and people comment that the ones that really milk look too thin. I'm fine with it but others think that beef cows need fat pones.


I like them to milk well as well and can handle the look of them doing a good job. I find I don't have any trouble with those heavy milkers breeding back. By the time they get to 5 or 6 their body condition seems to improve during a heavy lactation.

Ken


Most of the heavy milking / hard keeping types sort themselves off during the first two preg tests here. Hurts to see a productive heifer leave but if they can't produce on what we are willing to provide they have no place here.

Re: Problem with a cows weight...

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:32 pm
by gcreekrch
JSteim wrote:We bought 3 cows from a dispersal sale in mid 2016. All are related.
A 6 year old cow, her 4 year old daughter and a 4 month old heifer calf out of the 4 year old.
The 6 year old and the calf arrived in good flesh and are in great shape now.
The 4 year old came in really thin and has gotten thinner in the months since we got her. Her calf was weaned off of her 8 to 12 weeks back and is big for her age. The 4 year old has been wormed twice in the last 6 months and has access to plenty of grazing, round bales of hay, minerals and is supplemented with cubes a few times a week. Seems like she has a good apetite - always comes up for hay and cubes and eats with the other cows.

I figured once her calf was off of her she would start to gain but she has not. Thoughts on what to try next?


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