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Angus foot score data

Postby Fire Sweep Ranch » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:49 pm

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Re: Angus foot score data

Postby Lucky_P » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:20 pm

Wonder how the folks who have their cattle's hooves trimmed on a regular basis are gonna report scores... and how do we interpret(and believe) those reported scores...?
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Re: Angus foot score data

Postby True Grit Farms » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:20 am

Lucky_P wrote:Wonder how the folks who have their cattle's hooves trimmed on a regular basis are gonna report scores... and how do we interpret(and believe) those reported scores...?

That's the problem with the whole registered business. I've had foot issues with one older cow in my herd throughout the years. I'm sure the packers fixed the issue. Any cow that needs hoof trimming needs it head cut off.
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Re: Angus foot score data

Postby Fire Sweep Ranch » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:26 am

Lucky_P wrote:Wonder how the folks who have their cattle's hooves trimmed on a regular basis are gonna report scores... and how do we interpret(and believe) those reported scores...?


It's like birth weights; the data is only as good as the person recording it. But, hopefully, the abundance of data will knock out the outliers.
If our breed was taking feet scores, and I had a cow that needed a trim, I would record her ACTUAL type of feet, not what it looks like after she is trimmed.

I wonder how many people do not realize the dairy industry trims their dairy cattle on a regular basis? And these are cows that are in pasture, not standing on concrete all day.

And on the topic of feet; Upgrade is a Simmental sire, was at the top of the list for MANY years now for the most registered cattle in the breed. We have used him heavy on our farm. I had heard from numerous people about his tendency to throw bad feet. I have NEVER had a bad footed one, until this year! We steered him, and are raising him for the freezer, however I am not sure he will make it to 1300 pounds. His inside claw on front and back feet is very small, and the outside claw grows very flat and out (hard to explain). Because of this, he is lame, has big swollen knees, and spends a lot of time laying around. My vet thinks he might have OCD (joint issue). Now, when he was born, it was a very cold morning and when I found him I thought he was dead (frozen and wet). We had him in our bathtub for several hours to warm him, and he spent his first few days in the house keeping him warm. After that, he went out with his dam. So, are his feet a result of his condition (he was ice cold, so did that do damage to the tissues that grow hoof?) or genetics? Who knows, but he is being taken out of the gene pool regardless.
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Re: Angus foot score data

Postby Midtenn » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:41 pm

True Grit Farms wrote:
Lucky_P wrote:Wonder how the folks who have their cattle's hooves trimmed on a regular basis are gonna report scores... and how do we interpret(and believe) those reported scores...?

That's the problem with the whole registered business. I've had foot issues with one older cow in my herd throughout the years. I'm sure the packers fixed the issue. Any cow that needs hoof trimming needs it head cut off.


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Re: Angus foot score data

Postby talltimber » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:05 pm

Garbage in, garbage out. I would like to know the percentage of real data out there being used. I hope it would surprise me in a good way. A fella I know, family had been in the registered business for years, recently went all commercial. Said to me once, "you every wonder how the guys selling lbw bulls never have a big calf"?, and "the Aug calves these guys are raising for the fair are being born this month". That was in May or June, early summer.
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Re: Angus foot score data

Postby Supa Dexta » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:09 pm

January 1st must be the busiest calving date there is.
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Re: Angus foot score data

Postby talltimber » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:16 pm

I imagine so. The horse people used to be bad about that too. Jan birthdate on fall colts.
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