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Re: ear tags suck

Postby Katpau » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:43 am

I have used the Ztags for about the last 20 years. It is very rare to lose one, but under the right circumstances they can get caught and tear through the ear, but they don't get brittle. I have plenty of 15+ year old cows with their original tag and they are still legible. The trick is to use the Ztag marker. Anything else will fade out in just a few years. The markers have a chemical reaction with the tag that must soak it down into the plastic.
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Re: ear tags suck

Postby dun » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:27 pm

We've only ever lost one z-tag. We also tattoo the animals individual ID in the right ear for anything that isn;t sold as a feeder
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Re: ear tags suck

Postby M-5 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:54 pm

dun wrote:We've only ever lost one z-tag. We also tattoo the animals individual ID in the right ear for anything that isn;t sold as a feeder

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Re: ear tags suck

Postby Big Cheese » Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:17 am

We use Duflex Extra Large tags. We also use blank Duflex Extra Large tags on our newborn calves as well and they very rarely lose a tag. We have started leaving the tags in our replacement heifers ears that they got as they were born as well as the regular numbered Duflex tag so that they have two tags in their ear in case they do lose the tag we know at least who they are until we can get a new tag in their ear.
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Re: ear tags suck

Postby pdfangus » Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:51 am

Before we sold the bulk of the herd, and this was six or seven years ago now.....I was going to go to injectible electronic ID.
now that I have a few cows again and have actually registered a couple this year and last I may look at it again. The inject-able id is reasonable cost and the readers have come down considerably.....

FOR THE RECORD....I think it is idiotic to put permanent electonic ID on a tag which is a temporary ID....but that is what the feedlot and packer segments wanted and that is what we got....

There are even some electronic Ids out there now that are interactive....I may bite the bullet and invest in them...

Right now all of my mature cows have a collar on them with the number written on the collar....My cows are in with a neighbors and I want no confusion over which are my cows...and there is none....
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Re: ear tags suck

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:49 am

After reading all the negative comments about eartags that myself and others on here think work great, I have decided it is environment and management more than the quality of the eartags.
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Re: ear tags suck

Postby pdfangus » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:06 pm

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:After reading all the negative comments about eartags that myself and others on here think work great, I have decided it is environment and management more than the quality of the eartags.


there is no doubt that these are big factors....

feeding round bales in a ring feeder is where I find many old tags....I have found them hanging on a barb wire fence...I have seen one animal pull one out of another animals ear with its mouth.

I absolutely hate having an animal split its ear because the tough tag would not break and it hung on something....I have never seen the cause of those but have had the split ears.

but I still maintain that a plastic ear tag is a temporary ID Device and was never meant to be permanent ID....that is why most breed associations require either a Tattoo or a brand

animals will put their heads in strange places. I once had a two year old bull get caught in the base of a hollow tree. there was a triangle shaped hole at the base and for some reason he stuck his head in there and when he raised his head he was caught....I had a devil of a time getting him out of there...I finally had to cast him without breaking his neck and then drag him away from the tree to extricate him....once he was down his head would come out of the base of the hole. He lost his tag. But otherwise he was unhurt...
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Re: ear tags suck

Postby Nesikep » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:28 pm

in cases where the pin of the tag breaks off, I found that some brands have longer pins than others, and the longer pin makes it easier for the back of the tag to get hung up on stuff.
The fencebusters are always going to lose their tags.. though I have some well behaved cows that are 12 years old with their original tags in, though faded out now.. double and triple coats of ink on the tag does help a LOT.. and HEAVY coats

If you want something cheap and permanent I'd do a tattoo
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Re: ear tags suck

Postby Silver » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:32 pm

With regards to fading I agree several coats of ink helps it last much longer. Seems to me it was Oldtimer that claimed that putting in the microwave for a few seconds after applying the ink helped draw the ink into the tag thus making more resistant to fading. Always meant to try it, but then switched to engraveable tags. Although it looks like Ritchie and Z-Tags have priced themselves out of the market this year so I'll probably be going back to Allflex for awhile.
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Re: ear tags suck

Postby JW IN VA » Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:42 pm

pdfangus wrote:
Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:After reading all the negative comments about eartags that myself and others on here think work great, I have decided it is environment and management more than the quality of the eartags.


there is no doubt that these are big factor
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animals will put their heads in strange places. I once had a two year old bull get caught in the base of a hollow tree. there was a triangle shaped hole at the base and for some reason he stuck his head in there and when he raised his head he was caught....I had a devil of a time getting him out of there...I finally had to cast him without breaking his neck and then drag him away from the tree to extricate him....once he was down his head would come out of the base of the hole. He lost his tag. But otherwise he was unhurt...


I once found a neighbor's calf hung up like that.He was near the road and a local logger came by who happened to have a saw with him.He carefully sawed the tree where it could be broken away.Calf went straight to the cow.Wonder what was in his mind when that saw was running? :D
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Re: ear tags suck

Postby machslammer » Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:49 pm

Z Tag is much better than the y tags. Had mine in cows 5 years and no fading or no lost tags. I always trace over my #s with the z tag pen prior to putting them in. They also are much easier to put in than y tags
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Re: ear tags suck

Postby NolanCountyAG » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:42 pm

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Re: ear tags suck

Postby Banjo » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:01 am

Z tags absolutely. We used the y tags for years and had lost just about all of them until I started using the Ztags about 4 years ago. The two piece tags will break sooner or later...used to find them everywhere.
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Re: ear tags suck

Postby Big Cheese » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:52 am

When use the two piece tags with the black end that goes through the other end of the tag. We bought some cows that were tagged with those one piece tags and almost every single one of them has lost those tags. The two piece Duflex tags we hardly ever lose.
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