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Getting a calf up

Postby Texasmark » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:57 am

Neighbor called me over. Bull calf, 300#, age guess, 3-4 months, had vet out 4 days ago and gave it electrolytes, general antibiotic, field look over, left. Calf on the ground, upright, head erect, eyes clear and steady, nose has tiny bit of mucus, mouth looks ok. Responded well to caressing. Calf is very lean. Owner said that occurred with it getting sick....didn't say how long it was sick before she called the vet. Owner did say that she had detected worms some time ago and bought an OTC wormer and administered it per directions.

Owner had food and water in front of it and it took both casually. Stool, brown and firm, not hard...adequate moisture in it, urine normal. Keeps it's front legs tucked up under it. You straighten them out and it immediately tucks the hooves back under the body like cows normally rest. Back legs respond to touching and moving. No Blackleg symptoms.

It's in a barn where you can't get anything mechanical in there to lift it up. I thought about the brute force thing, maybe dealing with a lazy calf here. Couple of jabs in the be nice with a hot shot.....grab the tail and pull or the head?

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Re: Getting a calf up

Postby M-5 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:03 am

come along or tickle on the joist or rafter with a belly sling made out of a croaker sack.
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Re: Getting a calf up

Postby Lucky » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:33 am

I’d poke hime with something to get him irritated or pop him with a hot shot to see what happens when he tries to get up. Did anybody take his temper? Calcium deficiency?
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Postby jkwilson » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:04 pm

To get a cow up after it calves I'll take my coat off and cover her face.
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Re: Getting a calf up

Postby Texasmark » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:21 am

Lucky wrote:I’d poke hime with something to get him irritated or pop him with a hot shot to see what happens when he tries to get up. Did anybody take his temper? Calcium deficiency?


Owner said the vet did. Was OK. Thanks for the reply.
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Re: Getting a calf up

Postby Texasmark » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:24 am

jkwilson wrote:To get a cow up after it calves I'll take my coat off and cover her face.


Any idea as to what this does.....in her mind? Wonder if a bull calf has the same mentality? Thanks for the reply.
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Re: Getting a calf up

Postby ddd75 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:33 am

give it a good dose of whiskey
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Re: Getting a calf up

Postby Texasmark » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:40 am

Lucky wrote:I’d poke hime with something to get him irritated or pop him with a hot shot to see what happens when he tries to get up. Did anybody take his temper? Calcium deficiency?


Calcium deficiency a good question. Not a registered looking Holstein bull, but white with black spots and probably a dairy bull reject...I got started with them for my first bovines...eat and sale barn material. CD is certainly an option. Don't know what she has been feeding it. Had what looked like rabbit pellets in the bucket it was eating out of.

In your asking the question, what are the symptoms besides maybe soft bones? I felt and moved the legs and didn't notice any abnormalities.

My hot shot batteries are dead from years of non use. I ordered some online and will be here in a few days. I may check with her and see if it is still down and see if she is acceptable to my shooting her calf.
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Postby Texasmark » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:41 am

ddd75 wrote:give it a good dose of whiskey
I don't have any.
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Re: Getting a calf up

Postby Texasmark » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:43 am

M-5 wrote:come along or tickle on the joist or rafter with a belly sling made out of a croaker sack.
I have a 3 pt. 10' gin pole I made that I might could use. Would have to work in between the fence and roof....not much room to work the tractor or the pole. Is I wanted to do first till I saw the obstacles. Still a thought. Thanks for the reply.
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Postby M-5 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:51 am

Texasmark wrote:
M-5 wrote:come along or tickle on the joist or rafter with a belly sling made out of a croaker sack.
I have a 3 pt. 10' gin pole I made that I might could use. Would have to work in between the fence and roof....not much room to work the tractor or the pole. Is I wanted to do first till I saw the obstacles. Still a thought. Thanks for the reply.



Another idea is to just cut a pole and build a pivot point fulcrum out of blocks or hinge it to a post under the barn .
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Re: Getting a calf up

Postby jkwilson » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:00 am

Texasmark wrote:
jkwilson wrote:To get a cow up after it calves I'll take my coat off and cover her face.


Any idea as to what this does.....in her mind? Wonder if a bull calf has the same mentality? Thanks for the reply.


I assume it just scares them. Not being able to see would be a concern to a prey animal.
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Re: Getting a calf up

Postby alisonb » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:11 pm

The calf only weighs 300 odd pounds, drag it out of the barn gently, get it into the fresh air and sun. Does it perhaps have swollen leg joints(septicemia, infection could affect the spinal cord as well)? I would administer an anti inflam and BO-SE(selenium and Vitamin E)for a few days in case of white muscle disease. This could also be caused by a 'lack' of nutrition if you say animal is 'lean'. Push the calf over on to different sides a couple of times a day to ensure blood circulation, if it's going to get up it will get up on it's own.

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Re: Getting a calf up

Postby Texasmark » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:26 am

jkwilson wrote:
Texasmark wrote:
jkwilson wrote:To get a cow up after it calves I'll take my coat off and cover her face.


Any idea as to what this does.....in her mind? Wonder if a bull calf has the same mentality? Thanks for the reply.


I assume it just scares them. Not being able to see would be a concern to a prey animal.

Thanks
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Re: Getting a calf up

Postby Texasmark » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:30 am

alisonb wrote:The calf only weighs 300 odd pounds, drag it out of the barn gently, get it into the fresh air and sun. Does it perhaps have swollen leg joints(septicemia, infection could affect the spinal cord as well)? I would administer an anti inflam and BO-SE(selenium and Vitamin E)for a few days in case of white muscle disease. This could also be caused by a 'lack' of nutrition if you say animal is 'lean'. Push the calf over on to different sides a couple of times a day to ensure blood circulation, if it's going to get up it will get up on it's own.

Good luck!


I felt the legs and they felt normal. Since the vet didn't take one, I told the owner to take a blood sample over to the vet and let them scan it. Will discuss the drag it out in the open with the owner.....if we do that the gin pole will lift it. Thanks for the reply.
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