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Calf scour treatment

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:25 am
by Lisagrantb
Has anyone used the liquid injectable Oxytetracycline (LA 200) and given it orally to a calf to treat scours in the place of Terramycin tablets which is Oxytetracycline. Just wondering in a pinch would it work the same if given the correct dosages.

Re: Calf scour treatment

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:20 pm
by Buck Randall
It will work the same, which is to say that it won't work at all. Don't bother.

Re: Calf scour treatment

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:22 pm
by cowgal604
I’d need to know more about the calf to say what may help. Is this a bottle calf? My bottle calves always get the runs the first week on replacer. Is this a calf on a cow? I’d be trying to figure out why it has the runs than treating blindly.

Re: Calf scour treatment

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:02 pm
by Lisagrantb
It’s in the field with cow. How would you figure it out?

Re: Calf scour treatment

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:30 pm
by Lisagrantb
On cow. How do you tell what is causing it?

Re: Calf scour treatment

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:05 pm
by Dsth
good advise from cowgal604. calf scours is one symptom of dehydration, which didn't make sense to me when I was told that the first time. if calf is newborn and sucking on the cow, the cow may not be producing enough milk or calf not sucking. vet told me that if a calf over 3 weeks old gets the scours, he/she will usually clear up on their own. I treat younger calves with electrolytes and scour pills from vet (not sure what medication is in them.) I have never treated scours with LA200 so can't advise about giving it orally.

Re: Calf scour treatment

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:41 pm
by gcreekrch
Lisagrantb wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:25 am
Has anyone used the liquid injectable Oxytetracycline (LA 200) and given it orally to a calf to treat scours in the place of Terramycin tablets which is Oxytetracycline. Just wondering in a pinch would it work the same if given the correct dosages.
First, how old is calf, second, on bottle or cow?

We have put LA down the hatch with some good results. Haven't used a bolus in several years. Viral scours use of tetracycline you are only treating secondary problems. Electrolytes are a must or maybe IV if calf is bad enough.
Older calves are usually having a bout with Coccidiosis and can be treated with LA and Corid or as we have in Canada, Amprol.

We have prevented scours here with a good vaccination program and a good, made for us mineral containing Rumensin and Bio Moss. We one treated 100s of calves, now rarely 2 dozen in a spring. Got so I know they are sick before they do.

Re: Calf scour treatment

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:00 pm
by alisonb
Lisagrantb wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:02 pm
It’s in the field with cow. How would you figure it out?
It may be milk scours...what breed is the cow? What colour is the scours? Calf may be getting too much milk.

Re: Calf scour treatment

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:02 pm
by greggy
Just feed or tube a good electrolyte if showing signs of dehydration, is the calf well otherwise ?

Re: Calf scour treatment

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:19 pm
by cowgal604
A calf on a cow that’s nursing well shouldn’t want to take a bottle. When I question if they are getting enough I’ll see if they take a bottle. I’ve never had a calf nursing well accept but if they take it I know mama is having issues.

If it’s really young meaning 1-7 days old could just be adapting. Did you give it anything at birth? Could it be reacting to something you’ve administered?

You need to check this calf’s temperature first and foremost...

Re: Calf scour treatment

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:42 pm
by Aaron
Step #1 always, always, always is check temperature.

Re: Calf scour treatment

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:04 pm
by Lisagrantb
Angus maybe a week old and haven’t given it anything. Scowers are a light yellow. It dose show signs of dehydration. Tomorrow I will take temp and give electrolyte.

Re: Calf scour treatment

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:51 am
by alisonb
Lisagrantb wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:04 pm
Angus maybe a week old and haven’t given it anything. Scowers are a light yellow. It dose show signs of dehydration. Tomorrow I will take temp and give electrolyte.
Nutritional scours (cream/light yellow) usually occurs when the calf drinks too much milk. It may mean that the mother has a lot of milk or she did not manage to feed the calf for some time(weather etc), when she did calf was cold & hungry and drank too much over filling it's abomasum which in turn overflowed, without clotting, into the intestines.The result, a watery scour. Stress and the quality of colostrum can also cause scours. Nutritional scours mostly clears up on its own once a routine is set, without our intervention, but I have also seen it progress to an infectious scour.

Lisagrantb - How long has calf been scouring? Is it still drinking strongly or is it weak? Any signs of blood/mucous in diarrhea?

If it is strong and still drinking it may be getting over it on it's own...sometime catching it to give it electrolytes stresses it more than anything else. Just monitor closely, at any sign of weakness give electrolytes.

If it is showing signs of dehydration, has a temperature and is weakening start electrolytes immediately. Give calf electrolytes and then wait about a half hour before you allow it to drink milk. By doing this you are making sure that when it drinks milk, the milk clots normally in the abomasum and is not watered down by the electrolytes.

All the best!

Re: Calf scour treatment

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:30 am
by TCRanch
I sometimes use Tri Pectate &/or boluses with activated charcoal or Sustain (currently not available for calves but can break up the cattle bolus). Electrolytes! And yes, definitely take its temp.

Re: Calf scour treatment

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:29 am
by greggy
Lisagrantb wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:02 pm
It’s in the field with cow. How would you figure it out?
If it is unwell....or you suspect so....bring them into an area you can monitor closely and do checks etc....

If it is well otherwise, then, just monitor....