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Alternative livestock economics

Postby RanchMan90 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:26 pm

With the cattle cycle at a current low and the sheep/goat market being pretty strong I thought it may be worth considering. I always keep a few around and they are a bigger part of the livestock industry in central/West Texas where my family is from. Stocking rate is 7:1 to that of cattle and I cull strictly on parasite resistance which has been a stumbling block in my humid climate. I generally figure on a 150% crop annually, breeding for 3 crops every 2 years and 50% twins. So for every calf I could raise 10 lambs/kids. Current market price is $2-2.50 per lb with 10 head weighing in @ 600-700 lbs. Input costs are very low but infrastructure such as fence is higher. Input on any other species also welcome.
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Re: Alternative livestock economics

Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:47 pm

I like your way of thinking.
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Re: Alternative livestock economics

Postby RanchMan90 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:56 pm

Thanks :)
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Postby Kingfisher » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:01 pm

RanchMan90 wrote:Thanks :)

There is a great article in this weeks Livestock weekly on Wool sheep labor,grazing, fiber and marketing.
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Re: Alternative livestock economics

Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:02 pm

I was thinking Boer goats for meat.
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Re: Alternative livestock economics

Postby RanchMan90 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:23 pm

Livestock weekly does have some good reads. A great article in there this week on Boer and Spanish goats this week too. I like dorper and dorper crossbred sheep for their low maintenance requirements and high rate of weight gain. Every climate will vary in best species and breed for that area.
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Re: Alternative livestock economics

Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:29 pm

I know less about goats than I do cattle which is pretty frightening.
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Re: Alternative livestock economics

Postby CottageFarm » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:51 pm

Hair sheep, for meat/milk, are a valid option also, imo. You lose the fiber market, but its a tough market to make any real money, and you don't have the added cost/labor of shearing.
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Re: Alternative livestock economics

Postby Bigfoot » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:58 pm

The maths works, nobody could deny that. I could literally fence a couple of hours a day, just to keep my cattle fences where they need to be. I'm thinking fencing a place the size of mine, to keep a goat in would be a task to monumental to even undertake. No harm intended to goat people, but that's not me.
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Re: Alternative livestock economics

Postby RanchMan90 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:10 pm

I agree on the task of fencing. For my application hair sheep will stay in a six barbed wire fence, I just added a couple wires to my antique artifact fencing. Goats on the other hand would require netting or 8 tight strands of barbed wire. I make them pay for the their added fencing and it sure couldn't hurt with broncky cattle I take in. I don't condone selling out cattle to get in the small ruminant business but it can be a decent supplemental income to keep the lights on.
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Re: Alternative livestock economics

Postby RanchMan90 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:26 pm

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4f--V ... cslist_api a sales sheet for a registered sale in the Kentucky/Tennessee area. Commercial sales should be similar to prices I posted above.
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Re: Alternative livestock economics

Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:53 pm

Very interesting Ranchman.
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Re: Alternative livestock economics

Postby Brute 23 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:25 pm

The cattle market is low?
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Re: Alternative livestock economics

Postby 5S Cattle » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:04 pm

:lol:
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:I know less about goats than I do cattle which is pretty frightening.

:lol: :lol: :lol: ain't that the truth. I know around my part of the country I'd turn em loose and the ones that didn't break out, over, or under the fence would get slaughtered by coyotes. The ones that survived would die by my lack of knowledge about what it takes to keep one alive. I'll stick to cows!
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Re: Alternative livestock economics

Postby farmerjan » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:30 pm

Brute 23 wrote:The cattle market is low?

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Guess you didn't notice???? :nod: :nod: :nod: Yep, it is a little off :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :lol: :lol:
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