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Re: Trees and fence

Postby Caustic Burno » Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:22 pm

Kell-inKY wrote:Trees and deer, 2 worst enemies.

I usually check my fence charger, it tells me when I have a limb down. Cattle (at least mine) won't hardly cross a downed electric fence, they are so accustomed to avoiding it, even when I drop a wire, they wait for me to move it until they step over the old fence line.

My perimeter is electrified HT smooth wire with springs on some long runs. Limb falls and it just breaks plastic, run along with chainsaw and bag of retainers and it's usually pretty quick. Would hate to think what it would be like living where I live with barbed wire, I would do nothing but fix fence every afternoon here lately. Lots of storms and ridiculous amount of wind. Also, I keep different pastures on a switch so I don't have to check the entire line all the time, just the one they are in.

Ice storm years ago has had a long lasting effect, limbs and trees are dying at an even quicker rate than usual here lately. Lots of "widowmakers" hanging in those trees when you look up. A logger I talked to said he was just doing mercy killings. I like to keep our pasture pretty clean, and lately it's been a nightmare, at least in the woods I can just pile it to the side.


Here you need to add hogs to the enemy list they can tear up some fence.
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Re: Trees and fence

Postby gizmom » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:30 pm

I just wish we had more trees, natural shade is in short supply on our place. We use electrified HT fencing and have for about 20 years, love it. The home place where we develop our bulls had a pecan orchard on it until Hurricane Ivan. Prior to Ivan we had 52 pecan trees, after Ivan about 42, out of the 10 that were left 8 were out by the working pens and barn. The boss was going to cut them down when he was taking care of the 42 that were beyond help. I begged him to leave some I just loved the trees. The following year another hurricane hit I think it was Dennis, well the 8 trees out by the working pens all came down and I think each one was on the different area of the working pens. To say the boss was a little put out with me would be on the mild side :dunce: :dunce: Now we have two pecan trees at the home place. When all of the trees came down during Ivan we were sure glad we had the HT fencing, once the limbs trees were cut off the fence jumped back in place.

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this little tool works really well, if the fence goes off the light starts flashing. We don't have this on all the fences but we do keep one on the bull runs. It is never a good thing when the mature bulls are able to get together..

edited to say sorry about the huge photo...oops I wasn't trying to shout at ya'll

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Re: Trees and fence

Postby greybeard » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:15 am

I had a choice. Spend the rest of my life sawing up fallen limbs and trees and fixing fences or spend the next 1 1/2 years doing it all at once and being able to sleep nights.
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Re: Trees and fence

Postby chevytaHOE5674 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:23 am

All of my fence is smooth HT electrified wire most is through woods and brush. I try and keep the dead trees cut and any that look "hazardous" cut and out of the way. But it never fails that something will fall on the fence, at least with the HT wire after removing the tree the fence will "pop" back up and do its job. Also with a hot charger the fence will usually still give a little poke even with a tree on it.

I also have a few of the lights like Gizmom showed located in areas I frequent daily. So if the light is flashing I know further investigation is needed.

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Re: Trees and fence

Postby dun » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:52 am

greybeard wrote:Image

That's the little squirter that crapped out with diesel in it after just a few minutes. The gaskets on the pump part got so snotty and soft they just fell off.
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Re: Trees and fence

Postby M-5 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:20 am

dun wrote:
greybeard wrote:Image

That's the little squirter that crapped out with diesel in it after just a few minutes. The gaskets on the pump part got so snotty and soft they just fell off.


get the chemical spray bottles at walmart or TS they hold up pretty good to bleach and degreaser should hold up to diesel
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Re: Trees and fence

Postby greybeard » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:48 am

I'll have to look at the brand name on the one I got from one of the area feed stores. It was one Jogeephus recommended. I've used it with diesel mixed with both Tordon22k, Remedy Ultra and Tordon RTU.
(I believe RTU by the quart is the only way to get Torodon without an applicator's lic)
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Re: Trees and fence

Postby dun » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:36 pm

M-5 wrote:
dun wrote:
greybeard wrote:Image

That's the little squirter that crapped out with diesel in it after just a few minutes. The gaskets on the pump part got so snotty and soft they just fell off.


get the chemical spray bottles at walmart or TS they hold up pretty good to bleach and degreaser should hold up to diesel

The ones I had were made for spraying herbicides, got them from Lowes.
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Re: Trees and fence

Postby Stocker Steve » Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:58 pm

RanchMan90 wrote:The neighboring woods are almost impermeable horseback, I just leave the sale tags on calves any more to make them easier to locate. I love a good challenge trying to contain my hedge fund on the hoof :cowboy:


Do you run a lead cow or lead steer with each group of calves?
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Re: Trees and fence

Postby wacocowboy » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:08 pm

I had a huge limb from a pecan tree that got struck by lightning knock out a piece of fence down in my creek bottom. We are going to try to fall The tree towards the creek but going to be hard to get to it cause of the brush. Wish we had tried it sooner.
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Re: Trees and fence

Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:04 am

Bright Raven wrote:
callmefence wrote:We don't ever run less than 6 barb on perimeter. If it's in the woods 8 .
You got a couple of extra wires to catch limbs and still have a fence.
The 14 gauge high tensile barbwire is good in this instance as well.. course nothing is going to stop a full size tree.

Oh apparently if you pour out enough feed or have tall enough grass you don't even need a fence. ;-) 8) :mrgreen:


I am using my cost share this year to add to my perimeter fence. The fence contractor has given me an assessment. It was a bit above his normal rate but I agreed. There will be more bracing and he is putting the posts closer together. Here they drive treated wood post.


Has Kevin gone up on his pricing for everybody or is this just a surcharge for the aggrivation factor of putting up with you? :D
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Re: Trees and fence

Postby M-5 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:13 am

TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
callmefence wrote:We don't ever run less than 6 barb on perimeter. If it's in the woods 8 .
You got a couple of extra wires to catch limbs and still have a fence.
The 14 gauge high tensile barbwire is good in this instance as well.. course nothing is going to stop a full size tree.

Oh apparently if you pour out enough feed or have tall enough grass you don't even need a fence. ;-) 8) :mrgreen:


I am using my cost share this year to add to my perimeter fence. The fence contractor has given me an assessment. It was a bit above his normal rate but I agreed. There will be more bracing and he is putting the posts closer together. Here they drive treated wood post.


Has Kevin gone up on his pricing for everybody or is this just a surcharge for the aggrivation factor of putting up with you? :D


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Re: Trees and fence

Postby Bright Raven » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:34 am

TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
callmefence wrote:We don't ever run less than 6 barb on perimeter. If it's in the woods 8 .
You got a couple of extra wires to catch limbs and still have a fence.
The 14 gauge high tensile barbwire is good in this instance as well.. course nothing is going to stop a full size tree.

Oh apparently if you pour out enough feed or have tall enough grass you don't even need a fence. ;-) 8) :mrgreen:


I am using my cost share this year to add to my perimeter fence. The fence contractor has given me an assessment. It was a bit above his normal rate but I agreed. There will be more bracing and he is putting the posts closer together. Here they drive treated wood post.


Has Kevin gone up on his pricing for everybody or is this just a surcharge for the aggrivation factor of putting up with you? :D


That was a surcharge for me. Fence is along a holler. Going to require a lot of turns so he has to put in more brace posts. :D

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Re: Trees and fence

Postby RanchMan90 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:44 am

Stocker Steve wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:The neighboring woods are almost impermeable horseback, I just leave the sale tags on calves any more to make them easier to locate. I love a good challenge trying to contain my hedge fund on the hoof :cowboy:


Do you run a lead cow or lead steer with each group of calves?

I turn my dry nurse cows out with them, it does help settle them a lot. I think my next step will be smaller receiving traps (10 acres) with single strand electric to keep them from exercising so much.
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Re: Trees and fence

Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:47 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
I am using my cost share this year to add to my perimeter fence. The fence contractor has given me an assessment. It was a bit above his normal rate but I agreed. There will be more bracing and he is putting the posts closer together. Here they drive treated wood post.


Has Kevin gone up on his pricing for everybody or is this just a surcharge for the aggrivation factor of putting up with you? :D


That was a surcharge for me. Fence is along a holler. Going to require a lot of turns so he has to put in more brace posts. :D


Ask him if he has any interest in coming back to our place in Warsaw for a week or more of steady fencing please.
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