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Diversifying with sheep question

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:54 pm
by Ky cowboy
We have some smaller pastures that we have been cutting for hay for several years that are on a different farm. Thinking about buying some sheep to run on it, I've looked at several different breeds mainly wool sheep. Dorset seems to be my choice so far but wanting opinion . Thanks

Re: Diversifying with sheep question

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:26 pm
by RanchMan90
The wool market doent pay enough to shear them. I prefer hair sheep. Dorper, katahdin, and crosses of the two :2cents:

Re: Diversifying with sheep question

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:48 pm
by Ky cowboy
I don't care about the wool, the hair sheep I've seen haven't impressed me at all and look to much like goats. For the small number that I'll be running I'll shear them just to clean them up and discard of the wool.

Re: Diversifying with sheep question

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:26 pm
by TexasBred
Ky cowboy wrote:I don't care about the wool, the hair sheep I've seen haven't impressed me at all and look to much like goats. For the small number that I'll be running I'll shear them just to clean them up and discard of the wool.

Don't sound like you really want opinions. Already got your mind made up :???:

Re: Diversifying with sheep question

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:43 pm
by jerry27150
sheep are fine, but are always looking for a way to die

Re: Diversifying with sheep question

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:01 pm
by Ky cowboy
TexasBred wrote:
Ky cowboy wrote:I don't care about the wool, the hair sheep I've seen haven't impressed me at all and look to much like goats. For the small number that I'll be running I'll shear them just to clean them up and discard of the wool.

Don't sound like you really want opinions. Already got your mind made up :???:



No, it's not like that at all. I just prefer the wool breeds vs hair sheep. Except maybe the dorpher but I haven't seen them in person. There's just not many options in my area other than kathaidians.

Re: Diversifying with sheep question

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:06 pm
by greybeard
My b-i-l has some kind of hair sheep. 6-7 right now. They don't seem to be able to keep up with the grass growth--he still has to mow. I don't know the exact breed but they are some offshoot of dorpers.
Nasty looking things tho and he still has to do some shearing anyway once the weather turns warm, and they stink all to be dam.

Re: Diversifying with sheep question

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:10 pm
by Aaron
jerry27150 wrote:sheep are fine, but are always looking for a way to die


I assumed he had seen cattle die in every way possible and was looking for an animal that is even more inventive at it. See quite a few cattle people get a few sheep nowadays and are amazed at how fast and easily they die.

Re: Diversifying with sheep question

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:05 am
by greybeard
jerry27150 wrote:sheep are fine, but are always looking for a way to die

Yep, "born looking for a way to die" is how it was explained to me.

Goats aren't much of an improvement, but they do BBQ better than pasture maggots.

Re: Diversifying with sheep question

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:14 am
by wbvs58
Shedding sheep like Dorpers would be the way to go. Dogs can make a mess of them real quick.

Ken

Re: Diversifying with sheep question

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:17 am
by ddd75
hair sheep are hardy good animals depending on the breeder you buy them from. The bad part is most people are hobby yuppies who worm and baby these sheep everyday. You put them in a range enviroment and they die.

I had 180 hair ewes and never wormed or did anything to any of them. I had some pretty good loses the first year and after that everyone was pretty hardy.

Right now price are still really good with a nice 80 lb lambing bringing aroun 200.00 ..

I got out of them but as I'm getting back in.


The thing I found out is if you continually let them graze they will kill all your orchard grass.

Re: Diversifying with sheep question

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:19 am
by ddd75
greybeard wrote:
jerry27150 wrote:sheep are fine, but are always looking for a way to die

Yep, "born looking for a way to die" is how it was explained to me.

Goats aren't much of an improvement, but they do BBQ better than pasture maggots.



I had 120 nanny goats and a goat is always looking for a way to die. They are terrible mothers and beat each other.. beat the kids.. get every disease imaginable. they are a terrible animal. these were kiko goats btw.

I did buy some spanish goats from a old ranch in texas that were extremely nice and good goats.. those would be the only goats I'd ever buy again.

Re: Diversifying with sheep question

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:39 am
by callmefence
Hair sheep And Spanish x goats are both very hardy and moneymakers.
I promise they are not looking for a way to die. Predators are a problem and the biggest reason we got out. I just had to much to do and something had to go.

Bringing sheep in every night was a big chore. So went the sheep

My biggest question is do you have a auction near enough to market your lambs.? Also hair sheep will eat brush, weeds, briars etc. They are generally used to utilize sorry brushy pasture. Running them on good ground away from the house seems backwards to me.

I would stay away from wool sheep

Re: Diversifying with sheep question

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:28 am
by ddd75
callmefence wrote:Hair sheep And Spanish x goats are both very hardy and moneymakers.
I promise they are not looking for a way to die. Predators are a problem and the biggest reason we got out. I just had to much to do and something had to go.

Bringing sheep in every night was a big chore. So went the sheep

My biggest question is do you have a auction near enough to market your lambs.? Also hair sheep will eat brush, weeds, briars etc. They are generally used to utilize sorry brushy pasture. Running them on good ground away from the house seems backwards to me.

I would stay away from wool sheep



my sheep would come in as soon as it started getting dark to the pasture in front of my house. they were trained pretty good. I never had to get them.

Re: Diversifying with sheep question

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:30 am
by ddd75
everything you read says how good they are at eating brush / weeds..

they might take a nibble out of some brush and a nibble of a weed, but they are 80%+ on grass if its available.