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Cattle/chickens

Postby tncattle » Tue May 02, 2017 10:54 pm

Does anyone run their chickens right behind their cattle or even with them on a daily basis? If you do has it or does it help control flies?
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Re: Cattle/chickens

Postby warped04 » Wed May 03, 2017 9:10 pm

I don't know how people feel about him, but I know Joel Salatin does. 4 days after his cows run through.
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Postby Kingfisher » Wed May 03, 2017 9:20 pm

Buddy of mine commented it was" the first time he had seen cattle egrets with a herd ever yesterday".
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Re: Cattle/chickens

Postby Bigfoot » Wed May 03, 2017 9:51 pm

Lot of the Amish around me do. Nobody else does. Looks labor intensive, with little payback. If you could legitimately sell eggs, and dressed chickens, then it "might" be worth it.
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Re: Cattle/chickens

Postby tncattle » Wed May 03, 2017 10:13 pm

I was wondering from someone who actually does this if it really cuts back on the flies?
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Re: Cattle/chickens

Postby NonTypicalCPA » Thu May 04, 2017 7:20 am

Our small flock of 20 chickens free range and do a number scratching up the cow pies. I'd guess they're making a pretty good dent in the fly population. That said, we still have plenty of flies.
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Re: Cattle/chickens

Postby tncattle » Thu May 04, 2017 9:41 am

NonTypicalCPA wrote:Our small flock of 20 chickens free range and do a number scratching up the cow pies. I'd guess they're making a pretty good dent in the fly population. That said, we still have plenty of flies.


Do you rotate the cows? Do the chickens free range with the cows or after they've moved on to another paddock?
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Re: Cattle/chickens

Postby farmerjan » Thu May 11, 2017 7:46 pm

I think I addressed this in another thread but here goes from my experience. We ran 100 free range layers with the cattle in on place. Fly populations were definitely less as they really worked on the cow patties. Ran chickens at another place about 3 days behind the cattle. The cow piles that the flies lay their eggs in have to "cure a bit" so I've been told, guess they need a bit of a crust but no one has ever explained it. But the 3 days behind allowed the flies to lay eggs and the larvae to hatch and they cut down on the fly population more than the ones that ran continuously. Thing is the chickens have to be active and really scratch the piles. Some breeds do better than others, meat type don't do nearly as good, but young growing birds and some breeds of layers do pretty good. The thing is to look up the life cycle of the fly that you have most common and figure that the chickens have to be working on the cow patties before the larvae develop and turn into flies from the larvae stage. I think the 2-3 days behind is kinda a standard to go by. It helps also if the pasture grass is short enough that the birds can really cover a certain area without getting lost in the "weeds" so to speak.

Having done both, I think the rotating may work a bit better, but our biggest problem is/was/ will be predators.
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