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Here we go again....

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:08 am
by BigBear
Ok guys and gals it appears I'm getting back into the cow/calf game again. My wife has found 2 stellar Red Angus cows that should be bred to drop calves in late July/August. The cows and the bull are registered and so they would come with all paperwork to get the calves registered as well. 3500 smackeroos

As I mentioned, these are absolutely beautiful cows. Ones you would start a herd with (in my case).

This lady who is selling them appears to have a very nice herd. Most everything is registered and nice looking cows. She DOES NOT want to pay to have them palpated to confirm pregnancy but they sure look bred. Big ol' bellies and swollen vulvas. A little concerning but to my untrained eyes (lol) they look to be "as advertised".

I wish I could figure out how to post pics on here. I mean I grew up in the tech age (I'm 37) and have good computer skills and I cant figure it out!

What do you guys think? Am I nuts? :nod:

Re: Here we go again....

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:33 am
by ChrisB
You could pay to have them checked to ease your mind. Or do a blood test before you agree to get them.

Re: Here we go again....

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:35 am
by TennesseeTuxedo
Click the little "add image to post" box directly below the message box and it's pretty simple to upload a photo.

I'd love to see some pics.

Re: Here we go again....

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:37 am
by Bright Raven
The seller assumes the role of confirming pregnancy in most transactions. If it is obvious, no need to go to extra effort, however, I would confirm she guarantees the 2 cows as with calf.

Re: Here we go again....

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:52 am
by BigBear
https://postimg.org/image/9q4igwmgd/

Don't have that button available TT. Try the link above.

Re: Here we go again....

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:53 am
by BigBear

Re: Here we go again....

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:56 am
by BigBear
Should have have mentioned they both calved last year to the same bull they are bred to now and weaned off their calves about 2 months ago. Both born in March of '14.

Re: Here we go again....

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:34 pm
by Son of Butch
Buy them on the condition if one or both do not calve by October 1st... then that animal can be sold at local sale barn
and price difference refunded. (Either of you can buy them out of the ring... but you still receive the difference)

Re: Here we go again....

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:46 pm
by Nesikep
From what I can see, the one on the left is the nicer of the two.. the right side one is a little light.. at least that's the way I look at it.
Welcome back to the cow world anyhow!

Re: Here we go again....

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:06 pm
by BigBear
Nesikep wrote:From what I can see, the one on the left is the nicer of the two.. the right side one is a little light.. at least that's the way I look at it.
Welcome back to the cow world anyhow!


Thanks Nesi! I like the frame of the lighter one though. Very square. Maybe that's my dairy background coming out.

Do they look close to calving to you guys?

Re: Here we go again....

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:37 pm
by TennesseeTuxedo
BigBear, I think they are both terrific and whether they calve in October or November they are super cows.

I'm a sucker for a sharp Red Angus.

Re: Here we go again....

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:38 pm
by Jeanne - Simme Valley
I agree the one looks too "dairy". A purebred breeder is supposed to guarantee pregnancies. If they don't calve within a reasonable time frame, she should refund your money. Easiest way to handle, as mentioned, is ship her & seller pays the difference.

Re: Here we go again....

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:05 pm
by dun
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:BigBear, I think they are both terrific and whether they calve in October or November they are super cows.

I'm a sucker for a sharp Red Angus.

Yup, me too

Re: Here we go again....

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:57 am
by boondocks
Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:I agree the one looks too "dairy". A purebred breeder is supposed to guarantee pregnancies. If they don't calve within a reasonable time frame, she should refund your money. Easiest way to handle, as mentioned, is ship her & seller pays the difference.


I have sold a few short-bred registered Angus heifers on the basis that they have been called pregnant by vet on X date following AI on Y date to sire Z, but are not being sold as guaranteed pregnant. I figure so long as the price reflects it and the buyer is happy, that's fair; when they are short-bred, the conditions to ensure the cow maintains the pregnancy are out of my hands once they leave my farm. My Plan B (which I haven't used yet) is to guarantee them as bred so long as the buyer has them checked within, say, 2 weeks of arrival at their new home and notifies me immediately if they're open.

Re: Here we go again....

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:41 am
by Dogs and Cows
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:BigBear, I think they are both terrific and whether they calve in October or November they are super cows.

I'm a sucker for a sharp Red Angus.


I agree TT...I do like a red cow.

Tim