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Re: Selling Beef on the whole of half

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:39 pm
by ky colonel
we had planned to finish him on grass, so you think if i take him now or at 1000lb he probably still be select?

Re: Selling Beef on the whole of half

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:44 pm
by Stocker Steve
Unless he is low line or jersey - - 1,000 pounds is far from finished. Usually you get some chewy low favor meat from feeders. Think about more corn for steer vs. more ketchup for lean gray burger.

Re: Selling Beef on the whole of half

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:32 pm
by Jeanne - Simme Valley
I really thought about "biting my tongue" on this one.
Stocker Steve worded that well. I would NOT sell beef to anyone until you try your own meat - a good steak, not hamburg.
We shoot for that "fine line", between being as young as possible for more tenderness, yet have a little age for flavor. But, in my book, it is a must to have a well finished steer. At 14 months old and 850#, you cannot be seeing any fat. Fat will show up in the brisket (between the front legs), in the flank, and on the side of the tail head. If you butcher him now, it will be more like eating venison (an old buck).
I believe that most steers raised on grass, are closer to 20-30 months of age to be "finished", and they are hung at the butcher for a longer time if possible for tenderness. Try to find someone else that raises grass fed beef, and buy a good steak from him (like a ribeye) and see if you like it.
Raising grass fed beef is extremely high management. Done right, they say they eat well. I, personnally, would never bother trying it. I like my grain fed beef, and everyone I know that has done it, loves their pot roast & hamburg, but not their steaks.
For an example of grain fed steers, you should be shooting for a finished steer (1200-1400#) at 14-16 months of age.

Re: Selling Beef on the whole of half

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:26 pm
by ddd75
I sell it for 2.35 / lb family/friends and 2.50 / lb to everyone else.

i know a guy who has belties 'grassfed' and i think he gets around 3.50 or 4.00 / lb hanging.

Re: Selling Beef on the whole of half

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:34 am
by BigBear
We sell our pasture raised, grain finished Angus beef for $3.00/lb and buyer pays processing. I never take them off pasture. Had a couple old pros tell me it makes em marble real good (more on that in a minute).

We did our first batch of Angus last year. I fed them 2% of their body weight in 14% CP feed for the whole time I had them (9 months, 375 lb ww). They finished right at 1000 lbs each for an ADG of 2.19 lbs/day. Pretty awful. I believe they were low line Angus and the seller didn't disclose that. You live and you learn.

So after telling my wife I thought it better to go back to jerseys, the butcher called. He proceeds to tell me that our beef is some of the best he's ever cut, it would grade at prime, and that he would like me to call him next year when we have steers ready. I was shocked. Also we got close to 66% carcass yield. Another nice surprise.

We sold this beef to several new customers and all have already told us to put them down for more next year. I made ribeyes the other night and the last time I had a steak like that my company paid $50 for it!

Sorry for going off on a tangent, but I guess I don't really care what the store (or anybody else for that matter) sells their beef for. I do this as a side business and I need to be at $3/lb to make it worth my while. And as long as my customers are good with that price then it's all good.

Re: Selling Beef on the whole of half

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:33 am
by Son of Butch
USDA Prime is hard to achieve. 97% of the beef produced in the USA is not prime.
Historically only 2-3% grade usda prime. One poster mention feedlot selling on the grid produced 2 prime out of 132.
I have no problem with paying Prime prices for a Prime product... but there are more charging Prime prices for
a Select product than there is Prime produced.

Just like the butcher that called you...
I'd be calling the seller that sold you those low line ANGUS and tell him you wanted more of his calves.

In 1974 74% graded low choice or better
1995 49%
2005 55%
2011 61%

2011 2.8% graded low Prime - or better
USDA Prime - 1.3% (13 out of 1,000 graded Prime minus aka low prime)
USDA Prime 0.4% (1 out of 250)
USDA Prime + 0.1% (1 in 1,000 animals graded Prime plus in 2011)

Re: Selling Beef on the whole of half

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:25 am
by Supa Dexta
@ 4.20/lb cut and wrapped here.

Re: Selling Beef on the whole of half

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:47 am
by Son of Butch
Supa Dexta wrote:@ 4.20/lb cut and wrapped here.

You Canadians... always mucking up prices :)
4.20c = 3.25 usa or 60 Mexican pesos

Re: Selling Beef on the whole of half

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:48 am
by ky colonel
great info everyone. this is new to me and of course i want a great product. if i didnt like it i wouldnt sale it because i feel like i would be stealing from people. i have never tried grass fed and no one offers grass fed angus close to me. the burger was great, so now i just need to learn when the steer is ready for steaks. i am not really tied to grass fed it was just how it was going to work out. i suppose i could start him on corn?

Re: Selling Beef on the whole of half

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:04 am
by Son of Butch
Yes, in your case I'd suggest Big Bear's model of leaving on grass and supplementing corn.
Start him slow, a few lbs per day for the first week and then adding a couple pounds per day till he doesn't clean it up.

I'd suggest buying a couple choice grass fed steaks, so you understand what it is.
I like the flavor, but many accustomed to corn fed hate it.
Supplementing corn will tame down the flavor.

Re: Selling Beef on the whole of half

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:07 am
by Jeanne - Simme Valley
Can you post a picture?

Re: Selling Beef on the whole of half

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:35 am
by ky colonel
you are wanting a pic of the steer? if so i can post one tonight.

Re: Selling Beef on the whole of half

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:02 pm
by Jeanne - Simme Valley
yes, that would show us what you are working with.

Re: Selling Beef on the whole of half

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:19 pm
by Supa Dexta
Son of Butch wrote:
Supa Dexta wrote:@ 4.20/lb cut and wrapped here.

You Canadians... always mucking up prices :)
4.20c = 3.25 usa or 60 Mexican pesos



Sell 1 a week usually, but its sort of a hassle. Some people think its a great deal, others think they should be paying bargain bin prices since they're buying it straight from the old, dumb farmer.

Re: Selling Beef on the whole of half

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:25 pm
by Stocker Steve
Son of Butch wrote: You Canadians... always mucking up prices


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