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Re: Does anybody make a living with cattle?

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:19 pm
by Supa Dexta
gizmom wrote:Average age of a principle beef cattle rancher is 58.32
913,246 total cattle & calf operations2. Of these:
727,906 are beef farms and ranches. Of these:
91% are family-owned or individually-operated
11% are operated by women
26,586 are engaged in cattle feedlot production. Of these:
80% are family owned or individually operated
5% are operated by women
64,098 are milk cow operations
Cattle inventory: 93.5 million, up 1.8% from January 20163
31.2 million beef cows
6.4 million beef replacement heifers in 2017, a 1.3% increase from 2016
9.35 million milk cows
35 million head calf crop (2016)
The average beef cow herd size is 40 head of cattle2

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Somewhere there are 95,000 operations that arent beef, dairy or feedlot.. Seedstock?

Re: Does anybody make a living with cattle?

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:55 pm
by ALACOWMAN
I don't think it is how much you earn but more of a case of how much you live on.[/quote] place here that has million dollar homes..but ask the utility workers how often they have to pull he plug.cause bill ain't paid....a lot of the rooms ain't furnished and bed sheets cover the Windows...about two passes with a push mower between houses.. https://www.google.com/search?q=hampton ... lXFo2lI10M:

Re: Does anybody make a living with cattle?

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:10 pm
by Caustic Burno
ALACOWMAN wrote:I don't think it is how much you earn but more of a case of how much you live on.
place here that has million dollar homes..but ask the utility workers how often they have to pull he plug.cause bill ain't paid....a lot of the rooms ain't furnished and bed sheets cover the Windows...about two passes with a push mower between houses.. https://www.google.com/search?q=hampton ... lXFo2lI10M:[/quote]


That is exactly kind of place the millionaire next door avoids.

http://www.thomasjstanley.com/publicati ... next-door/

Re: Does anybody make a living with cattle?

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:18 pm
by ALACOWMAN
Caustic Burno wrote:
ALACOWMAN wrote:I don't think it is how much you earn but more of a case of how much you live on.
place here that has million dollar homes..but ask the utility workers how often they have to pull he plug.cause bill ain't paid....a lot of the rooms ain't furnished and bed sheets cover the Windows...about two passes with a push mower between houses.. https://www.google.com/search?q=hampton ... lXFo2lI10M:



That is exactly kind of place the millionaire next door avoids.

http://www.thomasjstanley.com/publicati ... next-door/[/quote] no doubt..one thing age has taught me,, to buy what I need.not what I want...once your in the ground,you ain't no better off then the next.. And be forgotten about in a year...

Re: Does anybody make a living with cattle?

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:40 pm
by Bigfoot
cowgirl8 wrote:
Aaron wrote:Most of the full time guys I know aren't lazy by any stretch, they just don't play well with others and get along with cows much better. Not hard to do if you don't mind lowering your standards and forget about keeping with the Jones's. But most of N. America has priced it's land out of value in terms of livestock. Just a few pockets left where land is cheap and decent to raise cattle.

We've never lowered our standards and most people have to keep up with us. lol


Tackiest thing I've read in a very long time. Very telling.

Re: Does anybody make a living with cattle?

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:55 pm
by Stocker Steve
Farm Fence Solutions wrote:My herd is very profitable. One of you should consider buying them all.


I can't afford those spendy Texas hobby cattle. I am sticking with profitable one eyed Herefords. :nod:

Re: Does anybody make a living with cattle?

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:58 pm
by southernultrablack
ALACOWMAN wrote:I don't think it is how much you earn but more of a case of how much you live on.
place here that has million dollar homes..but ask the utility workers how often they have to pull he plug.cause bill ain't paid....a lot of the rooms ain't furnished and bed sheets cover the Windows...about two passes with a push mower between houses.. https://www.google.com/search?q=hampton ... lXFo2lI10M:[/quote]
As I understand it, that place was built on a swamp also.

Re: Does anybody make a living with cattle?

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:08 pm
by ALACOWMAN
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Re: Does anybody make a living with cattle?

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:13 pm
by ALACOWMAN
It wasn't a swamp but river bottom country that was prone to flood and still does ...My son has a plumbing business, works that area some..has stood in six inches of water working under em. Mcmullen cove is sho nuff a swamp....that was beautiful country at one time.. Makes you sick to see it now...

Re: Does anybody make a living with cattle?

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:51 pm
by Farm Fence Solutions
Stocker Steve wrote:
Farm Fence Solutions wrote:My herd is very profitable. One of you should consider buying them all.


I can't afford those spendy Texas hobby cattle. I am sticking with profitable one eyed Herefords. :nod:



One eyed Herefords.....They don't look so good. :lol:

Re: Does anybody make a living with cattle?

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:06 pm
by GAonmymind
Bought two bulls from a guy in Alabama this week. He makes his living off the cattle business. Ray sells more than 65 brangus bulls a year. The bulls are 2 years old. Cost is $2,000 plus each. He fills a niche mentioned in another thread for good, reasonable priced bulls for seed stock/commercial producers. No web site and no advertising. Just good bulls at a good price and GREAT customer service.
He also minimizes costs by cutting and baling his own hay. Ray selectively breeds (no A.I. and no line breeding) and raises cattle. No bull leaves until he is vet checked and passes a BSE.
I could fill a book with the mistakes I have made in two years of running cattle. Ray has probably forgotten more about cattle than I will ever know. Yes, Ray makes a living with cattle.

Re: Does anybody make a living with cattle?

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:48 pm
by dave_shelby
Long thread. Dont mean to cut anyone down, but I was dissapointed. Most of us are hobby farmers.

I get the land cost issue. I wanted to get in and saved for years to buy this place, the family land not working out. There is debt. I have to work a demanding job and balance being a dad. My wife is thankfully is putting up with an old farm house. Most of our clothes are thrift shop buys or stuff from the dumps share shed. We run old equipment, drive old cars, and make do. With all that, I dont see how its possible to start with out off farm income but do know some folks who are but they are all direct market organic.

Re: Does anybody make a living with cattle?

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:04 pm
by cowgirl8
dave_shelby wrote:So much negative talk. I wasted too much time reading through this but I have my doubts and am curious what other folks are thinking. Dont mean to cut anyone down, but I was dissapointed. Most of us are hobby farmers.

I was obviously wrong to admit that's what we do for a living....so, I was disappointed too... Damned if I do, damned if I don't...

Re: Does anybody make a living with cattle?

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:10 pm
by Ol' 243
cowgirl8 wrote:
dave_shelby wrote:So much negative talk. I wasted too much time reading through this but I have my doubts and am curious what other folks are thinking. Dont mean to cut anyone down, but I was dissapointed. Most of us are hobby farmers.

I was obviously wrong to admit that's what we do for a living....so, I was disappointed too... Damned if I do, damned if I don't...


That's BS, and eveyone here knows it but you. Nobody begrudges you making a living raising cows, nobody even begrudges you being a nutty fruitcake, just don't belittle other folks, and don't think other folks wanna be like you. I doubt you're the "Jones".

Re: Does anybody make a living with cattle?

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:31 pm
by M-5
Ol' 243 wrote:
cowgirl8 wrote:
dave_shelby wrote:So much negative talk. I wasted too much time reading through this but I have my doubts and am curious what other folks are thinking. Dont mean to cut anyone down, but I was dissapointed. Most of us are hobby farmers.

I was obviously wrong to admit that's what we do for a living....so, I was disappointed too... Damned if I do, damned if I don't...


That's BS, and eveyone here knows it but you. Nobody begrudges you making a living raising cows, nobody even begrudges you being a nutty fruitcake, just don't belittle other folks, and don't think other folks wanna be like you. I doubt you're the "Jones".


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