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Probios boluses

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:55 am
by RanchMan90
I'm thinking about adding probios boluses to my receiving cattle program. I always worry about administering boluses wrong. Anyone use these?

Re: Probios boluses

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:38 am
by TexasBred
RanchMan90 wrote:I'm thinking about adding probios boluses to my receiving cattle program. I always worry about administering boluses wrong. Anyone use these?

Most use them only when they have a problem. Certainly won't hurt anything. We use to give every milk cow a similar probiotic bolus before they went into the milking herd.

Re: Probios boluses

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:12 pm
by RanchMan90
TexasBred wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:I'm thinking about adding probios boluses to my receiving cattle program. I always worry about administering boluses wrong. Anyone use these?

Most use them only when they have a problem. Certainly won't hurt anything. We use to give every milk cow a similar probiotic bolus before they went into the milking herd.

I figured it couldn't hurt on high risk lightweight calves. The mass treatment antibiotic seems to knock their gut health for a bit?

Re: Probios boluses

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:27 pm
by TexasBred
RanchMan90 wrote:
TexasBred wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:I'm thinking about adding probios boluses to my receiving cattle program. I always worry about administering boluses wrong. Anyone use these?

Most use them only when they have a problem. Certainly won't hurt anything. We use to give every milk cow a similar probiotic bolus before they went into the milking herd.

I figured it couldn't hurt on high risk lightweight calves. The mass treatment antibiotic seems to knock their gut health for a bit?

Absolutely it will and these lighweights need every advantage they can get.

Re: Probios boluses

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:34 pm
by Bright Raven
I use the probios tubes in the caulking gun to drench with. Give them a dose when I begin grain and halter training. Also, if they look or feel out of sorts.

Re: Probios boluses

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:39 pm
by RanchMan90
Bright Raven wrote:I use the probios tubes in the caulking gun to drench with. Give them a dose when I begin grain and halter training. Also, if they look or feel out of sorts.

I like that approach of application better :D

Re: Probios boluses

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:42 pm
by Bright Raven
RanchMan90 wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:I use the probios tubes in the caulking gun to drench with. Give them a dose when I begin grain and halter training. Also, if they look or feel out of sorts.

I like that approach of application better :D


Why? I put the tube in the side of their mouth, give them the number of shots based on weight and no fuss. In fact, I can do it real quick while they are just standing there haltered.

Re: Probios boluses

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:01 pm
by TexasBred
RanchMan90 wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:I use the probios tubes in the caulking gun to drench with. Give them a dose when I begin grain and halter training. Also, if they look or feel out of sorts.

I like that approach of application better :D


Here's what I use to use. Fast Track...good product but you usually have to find a local dealer for them.

https://www.conklin.com/ProductCategory ... =02&eibo=0

Re: Probios boluses

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:07 pm
by RanchMan90
Bright Raven wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:I use the probios tubes in the caulking gun to drench with. Give them a dose when I begin grain and halter training. Also, if they look or feel out of sorts.

I like that approach of application better :D


Why? I put the tube in the side of their mouth, give them the number of shots based on weight and no fuss. In fact, I can do it real quick while they are just standing there haltered.

Paste instead of boluses. Just seems like less to go wrong there.

Re: Probios boluses

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:08 pm
by RanchMan90
TexasBred wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:I use the probios tubes in the caulking gun to drench with. Give them a dose when I begin grain and halter training. Also, if they look or feel out of sorts.

I like that approach of application better :D


Here's what I use to use. Fast Track...good product but you usually have to find a local dealer for them.

https://www.conklin.com/ProductCategory ... =02&eibo=0

I'll check it out. Thanks

Re: Probios boluses

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:09 pm
by Bright Raven
RanchMan90 wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:I like that approach of application better :D


Why? I put the tube in the side of their mouth, give them the number of shots based on weight and no fuss. In fact, I can do it real quick while they are just standing there haltered.

Paste instead of boluses. Just seems like less to go wrong there.


I wonder which is cheaper? I use the paste in a caulking gun .

Re: Probios boluses

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:12 pm
by RanchMan90
Bright Raven wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
Why? I put the tube in the side of their mouth, give them the number of shots based on weight and no fuss. In fact, I can do it real quick while they are just standing there haltered.

Paste instead of boluses. Just seems like less to go wrong there.


I wonder which is cheaper? I use the paste in a caulking gun .

For a 400 lb calf the bolus is .80 and paste is 1.30. Very negligible difference to save a few minutes. And I don't really care for boluses, for no good reason.

Re: Probios boluses

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:42 pm
by Bright Raven
RanchMan90 wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:Paste instead of boluses. Just seems like less to go wrong there.


I wonder which is cheaper? I use the paste in a caulking gun .

For a 400 lb calf the bolus is .80 and paste is 1.30. Very negligible difference to save a few minutes. And I don't really care for boluses, for no good reason.


Thank you, Augustus

Re: Probios boluses

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:37 pm
by kenny thomas
RanchMan90 wrote:
TexasBred wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:I'm thinking about adding probios boluses to my receiving cattle program. I always worry about administering boluses wrong. Anyone use these?

Most use them only when they have a problem. Certainly won't hurt anything. We use to give every milk cow a similar probiotic bolus before they went into the milking herd.

I figured it couldn't hurt on high risk lightweight calves. The mass treatment antibiotic seems to knock their gut health for a bit?

I have to ask, why the mass antibiotic treatment to begin with?

Re: Probios boluses

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:17 am
by RanchMan90
kenny thomas wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:
TexasBred wrote:Most use them only when they have a problem. Certainly won't hurt anything. We use to give every milk cow a similar probiotic bolus before they went into the milking herd.

I figured it couldn't hurt on high risk lightweight calves. The mass treatment antibiotic seems to knock their gut health for a bit?

I have to ask, why the mass antibiotic treatment to begin with?

Trying to cut down on death loss, I take in 40 head of 2-3 wt calves from several barns this week. A weak long acting antibiotic like la300 on arrival seems to cut down on doctoring. Always trying to tune my protocol to lower risk and improve health.