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Re: Undecided

Postby ALACOWMAN » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:32 pm

One day she's gonna grow tired of it, and fight back..seen it more often than not....
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Re: Undecided

Postby ALACOWMAN » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:30 pm

We can learn habits in cattle, but we can't learn em not to be cattle :cowboy:
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Re: Undecided

Postby slick4591 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:46 pm

I agree, but if there's a safeguard to keep something detrimental happening to them, then I think it's my duty as an owner to make the effort. Don't necessarily think they need to be in padded stall, but I think she'll give me better service if I take good care of her.
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Re: Undecided

Postby ALACOWMAN » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:00 pm

Won't argue with you there,, we have to raise em the best we see fit.. God give us dominion over them...
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Re: Undecided

Postby cow pollinater » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:20 pm

If you keep her expect to make the same exceptions for her daughters... The downfall of the guernsey breed in the modern dairy industry is that they were shy at the feedbunk so they couldn't perform.
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Re: Undecided

Postby slick4591 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:53 pm

I'm not usually without something else that I could put with her. But, since selling off the commercial girls my cow count is down. I've pretty much decided that I will start bringing all my weaned calves to the house and taking care of them over here until they are big enough to hang with the bigger girls. Her problem is she is a 6/700 pound girl in with 13/1400 pounders.
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Re: Undecided

Postby farmerjan » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:01 pm

slick4591 wrote:I'm not usually without something else that I could put with her. But, since selling off the commercial girls my cow count is down. I've pretty much decided that I will start bringing all my weaned calves to the house and taking care of them over here until they are big enough to hang with the bigger girls. Her problem is she is a 6/700 pound girl in with 13/1400 pounders.

I'm with you on this one slick. I don't think that it is fair for a single to have to try to fight off a group of older, bigger cows. If there was at least one other she could keep company with they would probably sort it out a little better. And I do not agree with the comment that you will have to baby or make excuses for her daughters. I don't think it is fair to her to have to try to be more than she is until she gets some growth. I would try to find someone to run with her, like Kenny said, and then sell it down the road when she is big enough to fight for her place in the herd. She needs a chance to get a decent meal to grow. I do not believe in raising my 300 lb weaned calves with the 700 lb calves. We raise all our similiar sized heifers together, and calve them together, so they don't have to fight off bigger more aggressive cows when they are just getting started. I'm not saying they get babied, they just don't have to try to compete with older boss cows until they figure out what is what.
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Re: Undecided

Postby slick4591 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:45 pm

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slick4591 wrote:I'm not usually without something else that I could put with her. But, since selling off the commercial girls my cow count is down. I've pretty much decided that I will start bringing all my weaned calves to the house and taking care of them over here until they are big enough to hang with the bigger girls. Her problem is she is a 6/700 pound girl in with 13/1400 pounders.

I'm with you on this one slick. I don't think that it is fair for a single to have to try to fight off a group of older, bigger cows. If there was at least one other she could keep company with they would probably sort it out a little better. And I do not agree with the comment that you will have to baby or make excuses for her daughters. I don't think it is fair to her to have to try to be more than she is until she gets some growth. I would try to find someone to run with her, like Kenny said, and then sell it down the road when she is big enough to fight for her place in the herd. She needs a chance to get a decent meal to grow. I do not believe in raising my 300 lb weaned calves with the 700 lb calves. We raise all our similiar sized heifers together, and calve them together, so they don't have to fight off bigger more aggressive cows when they are just getting started. I'm not saying they get babied, they just don't have to try to compete with older boss cows until they figure out what is what.


Wished I had more places to put them at the farm, but I'll do what I have to. This girl came from an online sale and was just the wrong age in order to fit in a little better. That's my fault and I'll have to bear the expense for compulsive shopping. This is kinda like the thread I started about raising baby bulls, only it looks like I'm going to have to start with a heifer.
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Re: Undecided

Postby slick4591 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:44 pm

I guess I just decided to buy one for company and move my heifer to the house. I'll pick up this girl tomorrow.

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Re: Undecided

Postby Txpiney » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:19 pm

slick4591 wrote:I guess I just decided to buy one for company and move my heifer to the house. I'll pick up this girl tomorrow.

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Slick, I've always liked girls with long legs :)
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Re: Undecided

Postby slick4591 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:28 pm

Txpiney wrote:
slick4591 wrote:I guess I just decided to buy one for company and move my heifer to the house. I'll pick up this girl tomorrow.

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Slick, I've always liked girls with long legs :)


:lol: In this case it doesn't matter to me what length they are. The price is right and she is ambulatory. Good enough for my purposes right now.
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Re: Undecided

Postby Bestoutwest » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:51 pm

This brings up a question that I've had about one I've got. She's really, really timid and is always the last to eat or drink. She's a full LH, so she's gone after she has a calf this next year and I can wean it. However, b/c of this, will her calf suffer growth-wise b/c she's the last to eat? I always spread out hay when we feed and we've got a pattern down for graining so she gets some, but I've always wondered how much this will affect her calf. Anyone have any experience with this?
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Re: Undecided

Postby slick4591 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:30 pm

In my case I throw out 25 lbs of cubes at each feeding for a young bull, three cows and this heifer. She wouldn't get much at a time because of having to run from the cows. Same thing at the hay rings. I wouldn't be so worried if she was able to stay at the hay, but once they all finished and leave I watch her walk up, take a few bites and leave to join the others. One year is crucial time for Pieds and their development, so that's why I'm taking action now. Sure don't want to end up with a stunted heifer and I'm pretty sure I will at this rate. I've read it here that they can't grow on air.
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Re: Undecided

Postby ALACOWMAN » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:27 pm

slick4591 wrote:In my case I throw out 25 lbs of cubes at each feeding for a young bull, three cows and this heifer. She wouldn't get much at a time because of having to run from the cows. Same thing at the hay rings. I wouldn't be so worried if she was able to stay at the hay, but once they all finished and leave I watch her walk up, take a few bites and leave to join the others. One year is crucial time for Pieds and their development, so that's why I'm taking action now. Sure don't want to end up with a stunted heifer and I'm pretty sure I will at this rate. I've read it here that they can't grow on air.

If you picked that babe up at the stockyard. You might need to quarantine her a few days...
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Re: Undecided

Postby slick4591 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:36 pm

Bought her from an individual that got her from a barn two weeks back. Nevertheless, she's there now at my place.
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