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Re: Cost

Postby TexasBred » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:05 am

True Grit Farms wrote:This thread got me thinking about your land making or saving you money. Fact is trees or cattle can't pay for the land around here, but at least you have the land. There's a lot of folks that pay for a place that they can't do anything with but sleep, make payments and pay taxes. Most of us have it made, I can hunt off the back porch and fish off the front. And the little bit of money a cow might cost me is made up 10 fold by the lifestyle and pleasure of living in the country.

Exactly how I look at it as well Grit.....also normally the taxes on the land here would be almost $90 per acre per year. With the agriculture exemption they run $8.00 per acre per year.
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Re: Cost

Postby RanchMan90 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:10 am

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snoopdog wrote:I'm curious , what percentage of winter feeding cost is , of your yearly cost. Be interesting to see the differences , in locales.

Winter costs 40-50% of annual cost in Oklahoma. In my opinion


+1 Hay is my biggest cost

Yep. Hay is 2/3 of my daily winter cost. Cows sure do like it though :cboy:
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Re: Cost

Postby Stocker Steve » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:57 pm

RanchMan90 wrote:Yep. Hay is 2/3 of my daily winter cost. Cows sure do like it though :cboy:


I have to feed some purchased hay each year so my neighbor can make the 0% interest payments on his new JD equipment. :nod:

But, we keep hearing stories of folks in the south who only feed hay for a couple weeks every third year. Are you overstocked?
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Re: Cost

Postby 1982vett » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:19 pm

Stocker Steve wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:Yep. Hay is 2/3 of my daily winter cost. Cows sure do like it though :cboy:


I have to feed some purchased hay each year so my neighbor can make the 0% interest payments on his new JD equipment. :nod:

But, we keep hearing stories of folks in the south who only feed hay for a couple weeks every third year. Are you overstocked?


Hate to say, that isn’t the case this year. Not enough moisture October through November and a cold cloudy December kept the oats and ryegrass from performing. Deep enough in the barn that I’m feeding hay from 2012. Will probably start feeding some range meal or some type of supplement for the first time since 2011.

Don’t consider myself overstocked, but the lower cow prices did keep me from selling some. Still 40 cows short of what I had in 2009. Had some nice second calf brangus cows come through today. 3 to 6 month bred. Brought $830 to $850.
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Re: Cost

Postby RanchMan90 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:27 pm

Stocker Steve wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:Yep. Hay is 2/3 of my daily winter cost. Cows sure do like it though :cboy:


I have to feed some purchased hay each year so my neighbor can make the 0% interest payments on his new JD equipment. :nod:

But, we keep hearing stories of folks in the south who only feed hay for a couple weeks every third year. Are you overstocked?

Feed hay here for 100-150 days a year. I'm overstocked. Just using resources available. :2cents:
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Re: Cost

Postby RanchMan90 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:47 pm

My stockpiled grass doesn't have much feed value at all.
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Re: Cost

Postby Stocker Steve » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:04 pm

RanchMan90 wrote:I'm overstocked. Just using resources available. :2cents:


Ya. I was at a pair per acre once. Have cut ur back a bit. :cowboy: Now my account told me I cleared U$S 200/cow in 2017 after covering direct costs and overhead. I told him to rerun the numbers. :nod:
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Re: Cost

Postby Silver » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:17 pm

Stocker Steve wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:Winter costs 40-50% of annual cost in Oklahoma.


Wintering is most of our annual cost too.
It lasts about 8 months... :nod:


Yup, if we aren't rolling hay up we are unrolling it!
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Re: Cost

Postby pricefarm » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:17 am

Silver wrote:
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RanchMan90 wrote:Winter costs 40-50% of annual cost in Oklahoma.


Wintering is most of our annual cost too.
It lasts about 8 months... :nod:


Yup, if we aren't rolling hay up we are unrolling it!


Never thought about it like that. Spend all summer rolling hay and all winter unrolling hay
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Re: Cost

Postby skyhightree1 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:56 pm

True Grit Farms wrote:I honestly don't see how it's possible to make money with cattle. Between land, truck, tractor, taxes and insurance payments, a smaller operation can't do it. I have enough problems getting the cows to pay for themselves, the deer and a new tractor.
Sometimes I think I'd be better off doing nothing, but I tried that, and it's no fun.


True statement right there... Some people get checks and think I got 20k for some calves im making money but really are you? They see the check but don't look behind to see what went into to get that check.
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Re: Cost

Postby snoopdog » Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:04 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:
snoopdog wrote:I'm curious , what percentage of winter feeding cost is , of your yearly cost. Be interesting to see the differences , in locales.

Winter costs 40-50% of annual cost in Oklahoma. In my opinion


+1 Hay is my biggest cost
+ here , and may be upwards of 60% in some cases , ie dry year followed by a hard winter
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Re: Cost

Postby callmefence » Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:08 pm

True Grit Farms wrote:This thread got me thinking about your land making or saving you money. Fact is trees or cattle can't pay for the land around here, but at least you have the land. There's a lot of folks that pay for a place that they can't do anything with but sleep, make payments and pay taxes. Most of us have it made, I can hunt off the back porch and fish off the front. And the little bit of money a cow might cost me is made up 10 fold by the lifestyle and pleasure of living in the country.


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Re: Cost

Postby ddd75 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:56 am

my cows cost me money and I have to feed them in the winter to boot!
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Re: Cost

Postby Caustic Burno » Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:20 am

callmefence wrote:
True Grit Farms wrote:This thread got me thinking about your land making or saving you money. Fact is trees or cattle can't pay for the land around here, but at least you have the land. There's a lot of folks that pay for a place that they can't do anything with but sleep, make payments and pay taxes. Most of us have it made, I can hunt off the back porch and fish off the front. And the little bit of money a cow might cost me is made up 10 fold by the lifestyle and pleasure of living in the country.


Bingo..
Being rich doesn't have to be about money. :tiphat:


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Re: Cost

Postby True Grit Farms » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:06 am

Caustic Burno wrote:
callmefence wrote:
True Grit Farms wrote:This thread got me thinking about your land making or saving you money. Fact is trees or cattle can't pay for the land around here, but at least you have the land. There's a lot of folks that pay for a place that they can't do anything with but sleep, make payments and pay taxes. Most of us have it made, I can hunt off the back porch and fish off the front. And the little bit of money a cow might cost me is made up 10 fold by the lifestyle and pleasure of living in the country.


Bingo..
Being rich doesn't have to be about money. :tiphat:


Money doesn’t buy happiness but the lack of it does buy misery.

You must not do any community services. I'm absolutely amazed how happy most folks seem to be that have very little in our community.
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