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Major birthing trouble

Postby Kell-inKY » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:31 am

Old cow I bought, tried calving yesterday, checked this morning and apparently calf is dead, all I can see is a bit of the placenta, and she has pushed some innards out which goes back in when she stands, calf is stuck inside. No legs to pull on, cow is in bad shape. It's a holiday of course. Do I put her down immediately? Don't think I could wait to make hamburger out of her, don't like seeing her suffer. If I kept calling around I might find a vet willing to come out, maybe. Salebarn price on this old slaughter cow would be right at $500. Guessing vet bill would be high, even if she is treatable?

Any advice appreciated, I don't think I have any good options here due to holiday. Thanks
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Re: Major birthing trouble

Postby dun » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:36 am

Shoot her now!
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Re: Major birthing trouble

Postby Craig Miller » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:38 am

Yeah if you can't get a vet you'll have to I think. I wouldn't count on 500 at a sale barn with current prices. More like $10.
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Re: Major birthing trouble

Postby farmerjan » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:48 am

Hate to hear it but I think that putting her out of her suffering may be the only way to go if you can't find a vet. Yes, it will cost on the holiday too. Sale barn cull cow prices here are not good, don't think she would be bring .10 a lb here if you were lucky.
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Re: Major birthing trouble

Postby Bright Raven » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:58 am

If you do put her down. Make sure you use the X- method. The brain is not between the eyes. It is higher!
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Re: Major birthing trouble

Postby kenny thomas » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:09 am

[quote="Kell-inKY"]Old cow I bought, tried calving yesterday, checked this morning and apparently calf is dead, all I can see is a bit of the placenta, and she has pushed some innards out which goes back in when she stands, calf is stuck inside. No legs to pull on, cow is in bad shape. It's a holiday of course. Do I put her down immediately? Don't think I could wait to make hamburger out of her, don't like seeing her suffer. If I kept calling around I might find a vet willing to come out, maybe. Salebarn price on this old slaughter cow would be right at $500. Guessing vet bill would be high, even if she is treatable?

Any advice appreciated, I don't think I have any good options here due to holiday. Thanks[/quote
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First thing, have you checked her to be sure the calf is coming wrong. Are you sure she was trying to calve? If your seeing placenta and it's going back in something don't seem right there. You shouldn't see placenta till the calf is out.
Is the cow down?
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Re: Major birthing trouble

Postby gcreekrch » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:14 am

Schistosomus Refluxus calves can come guts first. Have seen a few around the country over the years. Have C Sectioned 4 or 5 myself. They can come in many shapes.
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Re: Major birthing trouble

Postby ALACOWMAN » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:17 am

Sound like vaginal prolapse,and sounds like you are guessing...
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Re: Major birthing trouble

Postby Supa Dexta » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:26 am

You gotta figure out if birth is actually happening out and why it hasnt made it out. This is basic stuff to owning animals, I was doing that when I was 10 yrs old likely. If you can't get a vet - you don't know any neighbour farmers that know what they are doing? 10 seconds (with a glove?) is all it takes.
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Re: Major birthing trouble

Postby kenny thomas » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:29 am

ALACOWMAN wrote:Sound like vaginal prolapse,and sounds like you are guessing...

That was my guess from the description. Sure would hate to draw an X on her head by mistake.
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Re: Major birthing trouble

Postby Aaron » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:34 am

I think after this episode is over, you should really consider not owning cattle until you educate and supply yourself with the tools to care for them. If you rely on a vet to stick a glove in and tell you things are wrong, it's going to be an expensive lifestyle for you.
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Re: Major birthing trouble

Postby True Grit Farms » Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:51 pm

There's only one way to learn and that's to deal with it. You needed to glove her yesterday if you thought she was having a problem. Probably just a breach birth with the legs forward, easy to fix but can and will kill a calf and cow. Someone on here could of helped you out yesterday, there's a bunch on here that have been through it multiple times.
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Re: Major birthing trouble

Postby Waterway65 » Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:52 pm

Restrain her then get a arm in there and see what is going on. Most likely the calf is out of position and must be shifted around. By now the calf is probably lost but it is possible to save the cow. In moving the feet it is important to not puncture the calf bed which would cause the cow to possibly bleed to death. Wish I was where I could help you more.
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Re: Major birthing trouble

Postby Craig Miller » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:02 pm

Well what did you do
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Re: Major birthing trouble

Postby SchenkAngusFarm » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:35 pm

I wish I would have seen this yesterday. I would have come out and given you a hand. Far western kentucky you can't be that far from me.

And some people are being a little harsh. If you want to own cattle, own cattle. You'll learn your way through it; sometimes the hard way.
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