Pregnancy signs. ASAP! Thanks

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Re: Pregnancy signs. ASAP! Thanks

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:46 am

Hard to believe that the red cow in first picture is only 3 weeks since the picture of her with the calf. Lost a LOT of weight in 3 weeks???????
As I buyer, you need to learn how to visually analyze the body condition of cattle. Were you able to see how thin they are before everyone told you?
http://www.cowbcs.info/photogallery.html

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=ca ... &FORM=IGRE

Please take the time to look at this site & try to analyze and compare where your animals fit into the BCS.
Hard to tell with pictures, but to me they look like a BCS of 2
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Postby Lrj505 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:22 am

Pasture November 15- March 15 on dormant alfalfa grass field. My dad has 1000 acre farm. So feed cost me about $1.00 a day a cow a day. I really appreciate the help. My dads a great farmer horrible cowboy. So let the calves get to about 500 pounds , and sell everything and buy younger stock?
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Postby True Grit Farms » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:50 am

You may have some good cows in that set right there. Buying good bred cows is a crap shoot, you just need to pick through them when you get them home and see their calves. I'd much rather by a bred commercial cow than a commercial bred heifer. Check teeth and keep those that have a mouth full and raise a nice calf. There's nothing wrong with thin cows, a good worming and decent hay - pasture can turn them around within a year.
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Re: Pregnancy signs. ASAP! Thanks

Postby farmerjan » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:58 am

Again, I am not one to say to spend alot of money needlessly. Since you admit to being a newbie to cattle, and your comment that your dad is a great farmer but not a cowboy, then you need a little help and guidance. SO, you really ought to get a vet out. Go over the cows with you. Tell you their general age, see if they really are pregnant. If they are not terribly old, just needing some feeding and hay to get their body condition up, then you might have a good deal as TrueGrit says. I definitely do not suggest bred heifers for someone who is not real experienced. Bred cows that have done it before are a much safer way to go. You need some experience with calving and cows are a little better learning curve than heifers. These could be a good deal for you but you really need to know exactly where they stand. The price was good, but if they are old, or are not confirmed pregnant, then you will be better off putting some weight on them and calving the bred ones out and selling the open ones. Without a vet palpating them, or a blood test, there is no way to be sure they are bred.

In my opinion, right now free choice hay, preferably just a good grass hay would do them a world of good. Maybe a square bale or 2 of alfalfa for extra protein but not too much or you could cause other problems with them getting too much rich feed when their systems are not used to it. I mean as much grass hay as they can/will eat. They need to get filled up and get their gut tract in good working order and in a month they will look way different and start to put on weight. But there is no reason to keep feeding them if any are not pregnant.
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Postby callmefence » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:27 am

Lrj505 wrote:Pasture November 15- March 15 on dormant alfalfa grass field. My dad has 1000 acre farm. So feed cost me about $1.00 a day a cow a day. I really appreciate the help. My dads a great farmer horrible cowboy. So let the calves get to about 500 pounds , and sell everything and buy younger stock?


Depends. Lot of times it's better to wean at about 350. Your gonna sell the cow to. You want to do it before she loses condition.
You can usually make a pretty good profit doing this. As long as you have good grass. And sometimes you get lucky and find a diamond in the rough.
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Postby Workinonit Farm » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:40 am

Some good advice and suggestions have been posted. If you do decide to spend a few $$ on having the vet out, it would be well worth it, for several reasons. 1) if you don't already, it will help to establish a good working relationship with a/your vet. 2) while the vet is there, ask as many questions as you can think of, regarding the cows, calves, their care, vaccines, management, etc. (which ties into #3) by asking and getting answers, you're adding to your education for a reasonable price. Your vet will also be well versed in what types of management "styles" & "methods" work for your area. Not all parts of the country, or the world, have the same practices.

As for the cows in the pictures, I see nothing wrong with them that some groceries can't fix. They may very well be pregnant. Keep them, calve them out, see how they do as they go along, if need be, wean calves a bit early, while cows are looking decent, sell cows and put $$$ towards a few more.
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